Stupid Luck and Happenstance, Thread III

If you are in the reserves or National Guard and are in good standing you get 2.5 days of Exchange and Commissary privileges a month.
IOTL President Nixon had his "Western White House" in San Clemente and the majority of shopping went through Camp Pendleton, and ITTL Nixon is President.
The best Exchanges and Commissaries are where there a lot of Flag Officers both active and retired.
 
Doing some quick research. Fort MacArthur predates WW1 and was used for Command and control even into the late 60's of Nike Missiles in the area of Los Angeles. It should still be important, if not more, ITTL and would be a good point for them to shop because it is US Army.
 
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@ejpsan the Reserves have pretty much have unlimited commissary and exchange privileges these days.

The limit of 2.5 days/month was done away with some time ago - late '80's/early '90's?
I was in the CG Reserve from 1980 to 2006.
 
Part 140, Chapter 2421
Chapter Two Thousand Four Hundred Twenty-One



2nd December 1975

Washington D.C.

“What does this say about the relations between Russia and Germany?” Nixon asked.

“That is a matter of perspective Sir” The expert replied, “On one hand the Russians being closely allied with the Greeks gives them the wider access to the world that they have wanted for centuries. They are neck deep in the Turkish mess because of that. On the other hand, the Germans have a mutual defense treaty with Ukraine and the Ukrainians have been doing their level best to be a thorn in the Russian’s side for the last few decades. They are still angry about the famine during the Soviet War. There is also the Romanians who are hoping to have Friedrich the IV’s younger brother marry their King’s oldest daughter, which could radically change the regional balance.”

That was exactly the sort of wordy answer/non-answer that Nixon had come to hate since he had assumed office. The man was a foreign policy expert, in theory, but he had just used a lot of words to tell Nixon things he already knew. The Greeks and Turks had hated each other since time out of mind, the Ukrainians hated the Russians because of what the Soviets had done to them in the 30’s and 40’s. Even Nixon knew that it only took mere mention of the second Holodomor to cause people in Ukraine and Belarus to fly into a rage. Of course, it was not in the least bit surprising that the German Empire was pursuing their interests on shores of the Black Sea. They had interests damn near everywhere else.

“Harry Truman once asked to speak with a one-armed economist” Nixon said, and the expert frowned.

“What the President is trying to say is that he appreciates your efforts” One of Nixon’s aides said, much to his annoyance. He was tired of the so-called experts whose knowledge would be known to anyone who might be bothered to open a newspaper or two.

“Thank you, Sir” The expert said through gritted teeth. What exactly had he been expecting?

Mercifully, that was when the door swung up and Nixon saw Frank Church and Patrick V. Murphy were waiting. Church, he had a look on his face that was reminiscent of the cat that had just eaten the canary. Having been the Commissioner of the New York Police Department, Murphy was almost impossible to read.

Because of the Aleshire scandal, the FBI and CIA had ended up with egg on their face. Both the Agency and the Bureau had been excoriated by the press over what had happened right under their noses for years. Murphy and Church had been appointed because they had the reputation of being reformers and had set about cleaning house. That was something that was long overdue if a cuckoo like John Aleshire could remain undetected for decades. They were still trying to reckon with the actual damage that Aleshire had done, a task which had proven surprising difficult mostly because Aleshire himself had refused to cooperate.

“If you could excuse us” Nixon said to the Foreign Policy expert who was looking to leave anyway. Nixon turned and looked out the windows of the Oval Office as the man left the room. The thick, bulletproof glass distorted the view. It was as perfect a metaphor for the situation which Nixon found himself in as he could have found anywhere. Not that there was much to see today. It was a grey afternoon, not particularly cold though with it being in the low fifties. Pat had told him over the phone that it was in the mid-sixties and raining in Southern California that morning. She thought that was cold. He had told her that she ought to take a look at the weather reports on the East Coast and she just laughed, Pat said that she would come back to DC that spring, but if it got too hot like it had last summer she was on the first plane out. Nixon knew that she was joking, she was flying back next week, and the plan was to spend Christmas with the girls at Camp David.

With a heavy sigh, Nixon looked back to Church and Murphy. He noticed that the room had been cleared. Whatever this was, it was clearly “Need-to-know” and anyone who didn’t need to know had been asked to leave. Too often, things discussed in the White House found their way into the pages of the Washington Post or New York Times if they failed to control the flow of information. The fact that it involved the Directors of America’s Intelligence and Counterintelligence together in the same room spoke volumes. Normally, the CIA and FBI ignored each other at best.

“So, what do you have for us Frank?” Nixon asked. Guessing that the CIA Director was the reason for this meeting.

“Our friend in Berlin came through” Church said handing Nixon a folder. Opening it, he saw a typewritten page with several names on it.

“I see” Nixon replied.

“We can roll this whole thing up” Church said excitedly. If this really was what Church thought it was, then this was a major coup by the CIA. “We need to act on this.”

That was when a thought came creeping from the back of Nixon’s mind. It was early December, the absolute doldrums of the election cycle with the next election almost a year away. The timing for such a victory was terrible. If that was how it worked out.

“Actually, we don’t” Nixon replied.

“Excuse me, Sir?” Church asked.

“As Director Murphy can tell you, getting information from an informant is just the beginning of the investigation” Nixon said, “We need to find out who these people know, their contacts, the network. Then we can roll the whole thing up.”

We can also make damned certain that the Germans were not playing them as saps again, Nixon left unsaid. That had happened too often in the past.

Church’s face fell as Murphy had a slight smile. Obviously, Church had been hoping to get the lion’s share of the credit. Nixon had just put the ball in Murphy’s court.
 
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Even if that's a complete and accurate list of names, that I assume is German agents within the US intelligence agencies, the damage has been done. Egg on the face, yes, and at least medium term loss of reputation and that ever nagging fear that they didn't get everyone. Or that there's a Brit, or a Frenchman, or a Japanese agent somewhere still even if they got all the Germans.

That's not mentioning the damage the purge on it's own is going to do.
 
That's not mentioning the damage the purge on it's own is going to do.
Everyone looking over their shoulder. Anyone who was associated with a German agent will also be suspect, so that's their career dead in the water too.
 
“Our friend in Berlin came through” Church said handing Nixon a folder. Opening it, he saw a typewritten page with several names on it.
Someone ignored the simplest terms of save conduct here. No politican should ever be able to get the real names of assets in other nations. At least not in a way that is easy to explain away.
So whoever that was, the one working for the USA and the one giving him/her the information, should be on the silver platter for some very serious questions... the kind that involves tigers and knives in the night.
 
Just a thought, all these secret documents being declassified would have needed someone to vet them. If someone involved in the vetting of those documents is the American source, then they could legitimately get into more current files for vetting purposes, (to cross check to see if X Document was still relevant). That could then give them the names of current agents.

IF...

If the Americans aren't being played and this is plausible false information being leaked as a counter operation. In which case, Nixon could well outsmart this by being patient and not leaping.

At the end of the day, waiting and making sure all his ducks are in a row is a winning strategy for Nixon.
Of course, Frank Church may decide to jump early, in which case this is all for naught, and Nixon can completely clean house in the CIA.

I wonder what Parker is doing at the moment?
 
That's not mentioning the damage the purge on it's own is going to do
Yea, they might be spies for a foreign government, but they are probably still competent in their day job. If they get fired people not as competent take over their job and something might go missing or something else going wrong from inexperience.
 
Just a thought, all these secret documents being declassified would have needed someone to vet them. If someone involved in the vetting of those documents is the American source, then they could legitimately get into more current files for vetting purposes, (to cross check to see if X Document was still relevant). That could then give them the names of current agents.
Afaik, that should not work. Because as I understand basic informatin security, there should be NO link from any document to the real person. Maybe a alias but certainly no identifiable information. At least not in the files that are delassified as that are real in TL persons.
 
Something else to look at is how many of those are actual spies for Germany, how many might be working for other countries in actuality, and how many are actually spies and just not someone who might look guilty, say they are feeding the New York Times instead of a foreign government.
 
This is a much different Richard Nixon ITTL where he isn't struggling financially as he did IOTL, ITTL.his family owns the largest supermarket chain in Southern California.
ITTL there is no "Checkers Speech" where Pat has "A respectable Republican cloth coat" but is dressed fashionably according to her position as First Lady and family wealth.
This is also a Nixon who was able to go Harvard College and Law School on a full ride scholarship that he had to turn down IOTL thus he doesn't have the resentment of the "Eastern Establishment" that he did in IOTL.
Another thing is Nixon ITTL doesn't have Kissinger as his chief foreign affairs advisor.

At this point in time IOTL, Frank Church is a Senator from Idaho and is holding hearing as the Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on the abuses by the CIA, whereas ITTL he is the Director of the CIA.
 
This is a much different Richard Nixon ITTL where he isn't struggling financially as he did IOTL, ITTL.his family owns the largest supermarket chain in Southern California.
ITTL there is no "Checkers Speech" where Pat has "A respectable Republican cloth coat" but is dressed fashionably according to her position as First Lady and family wealth.
This is also a Nixon who was able to go Harvard College and Law School on a full ride scholarship that he had to turn down IOTL thus he doesn't have the resentment of the "Eastern Establishment" that he did in IOTL.
Another thing is Nixon ITTL doesn't have Kissinger as his chief foreign affairs advisor.

At this point in time IOTL, Frank Church is a Senator from Idaho and is holding hearing as the Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on the abuses by the CIA, whereas ITTL he is the Director of the CIA.

There is also no Eisenhower who treats you like shit!
 
So who is Julie Nixon married to ITTL as it is very doubtful that she marries Eisenhower's grandson, David.
Well, Eisenhower did not go into politics, but still reworked the interstate highways. I remember that being mentioned.

And the politics is different, considering that Nixon is now a Liberal Democrat...and rose through the political ranks in California becoming its governor, so its hard to say.
 
There is also the Romanians who are hoping to have Friedrich the IV’s younger brother marry their King’s oldest daughter, which could radically change the regional balance.”
The potential marriage involving the Presumptive Heiress of Romania and the spare Prince from The House of Hohenzollern should be a very minor concern to the United States except for picking something nice from the Wedding Registry.
But these are not normal times as a potential war breaking out in the Black Sea area could also expand the Special Operations that Greece is currently carrying out against Turkey.
Depending on the Greeks ambitions, Cyprus and the Dodencanese Islands could come in play bringing both Great Britain and Italy into a wider conflict in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, while the United States have no real interests in the area, there should be the potential of US Naval Units in the area as part of the US "Showing the Flag", as part of US policy of enforcing "Freedom of the Seas" which has been American policy since 1776.
Russia would love to bring Romania into a cartel under their control in order to fix prices on oil and natural gas exports to the rest of Europe.
 
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