Plausability Check WWII a three-way slugfest

Ok so this my first post on the forums, feel free to rip this to bloody shreds if need be. I wwasn't sure if this would need a pre-1900 PoD or not but since WWII happened after I figured I'd put it here.

So I would like to ask is if it is possible to have the major powers divided as thus:

England
France
Japan

vs.

Germany
Italy

vs.

US
USSR

I've thought about this some on the time I browsed this forum reading threads and tryied to come up with a soewhat plausible scenario. First the Aglo-Japanese Alliance isn't disolved, as a buffer against the Soviet Union. England and France in order to keep Japan as a happy ally and make sure the Communists are boxed in are less vocal about the Japanese invasion of Manchuria. Japan then of course engage in battles of Khalkhin Gol against the Soviets with results as in OTL.

The US however stays vocal against the attacks on China and even protests the attack on the Soviets and a rift begins to form between the US and England and France who are doing nothing to really stop this. Of course the US is shipping into isolation and doesn't do much themselves but public opinion is shifting away from traditional allies.

On other fronts the Nazi-Soviet pact is still signed and this draws the eye of the Allies who watch wearily. Things ocur pretty much on schedule with OTL with the Soviets actually now more interested in joining the Axis but Hitler being an insane bastard still goes through with Barbossa, alienating them.

In OTL the Soviets would join the Allies but ITTL since Japan is a member of the Allies, that pushes the Soviet Union away from the Allies due to the border incident two years prior and the Soviets become a third party in the war fighting the Axis but not supporting the Allies.

Japan sees Barbossa as an oppurtunity to get back at the Red Army for the defeat two years ago and oce again strikes at the Soviets. England and France not trusting the USSR after the Nazi-Soviet Pact don't really care and go into de facto war with the Soviet Union.
enrages the US
However the US does take notice and given cooling public oppinion toward the Allies, condemns the attack on the Soviet Union, after this, the previous attacks on Manchuria and the Soviet-Japanese broder conflict of '39 and Barbossa the American people are beginning to see that neither the Axis nor the Allies can be trusted and see the Soviets as victims. The US begins discreetly shipping weapons and supplies to the Soviets.

Englan and Japan find out about the US supply shipments to the USSR and begin to stop US merchant ships and commondere their cargo. This enrages the US even more and as it continues the US begins to send naval escorts resulting in a breif scuffle between the USN and the Royal Navy/IJN as the Allies see this as ptientially hostile. In the crossfire the US merchant ship is sunk as well as its naval escort.

This proves to be the straw that broke the camel's back and the US declares war on the Allies and enters a formal alliance with the Soviet Union. A shprt time after the Axis powers also declare open war on the US.

So what do you think is this scenario plausible, if not is there another plausible scenario that could cause a WWII like this? Also how do you think such a war would end and what would its effects on the world be?
 
The OTL WWII was actually a four-way slugfest: Japan attempted to first take over Manchuria and then escalated this into a general war with conquest and occupation of China as the end goal, this bringing them into conflict with the US and British Empires. The Soviet Union's goal was what happened IOTL, a global spread of Communism, though it wanted a mutual war of exhaustion in the West, not what actually happened. Hitler wanted to wipe out Europe's Slavs and Jews. The British and USA wanted to preserve the global status quo.

What happened was Japan was busy burning, looting, raping, and pillaging its way through China, the evolution of German re-armament meant it wound up allied with the USSR in a war against France and the UK and a German-Soviet mutual conflict against Poland, the Germans overrun Poland, Norway, and France but could never quite clinch a victory against Britain, then Hitler does what he wanted all along and invades Russia, six months later the USA's attempts to forestall a war with Japan provoke precisely that.

Hence IOTL we had a war of the USA, USSR, and UK against Germany, Italy, and Japan but there were really four wars: a democratic war to keep everything where it was, a Japanese war to replace European/US colonialism with Japanese, a Soviet war to spread Communism, and a Nazi war to wipe out Europe's Slavs and Jews as the precursor to a new, larger, more evil Greater German Empire. That there were two alliance systems obscures what the two alliances were about, and both had separate, distinct goals between the two greatest blocs of each side.
 
Well I can not see the US allying with the USSR in this scenario. Give more details how it can happen, otherwise they may just go after Japan by themselves.
 
More than a little ASB, I mean how does it come about that Germany doesn't walk over France? And how is Britain supposed to survive without massive loans from the US?
 
Well I can not see the US allying with the USSR in this scenario. Give more details how it can happen, otherwise they may just go after Japan by themselves.

The US could go after Japan themselves, but it's not just Japan they're fighting now, the also have to deal with Royal Navy units stationed in the Pacific, not tomention a front now open in Canada. However the bottom line is, other than spliting Poland with Germany the USSR hasn't done anything overtly aggressive and has been attacked by both sides including someone who holds a non-aggression pact with them.

So you've got the Allies shielding Japan who has attacked the USSR in the past without provocation and has attacked them again while their back was somewhat turned with Barbossa, not to mention the Allied power of Japan being a major threat to US interest.

Then you have the Axis who broke a non-agression pact with the USSR and who our president wants war with anyway. So as far as FDR figures, he wants war, at least with Germany, maybe with Japan as well and the best way to get it is to help the Soviets, who are looking like the kid on the playground surrounded by bullies. So he starts shipping supplies and weapons. Some well placed propaganda later and a Stalin with no friends who needs the supplies and help later, you're one ceased ship incident away from a Soviet American Alliance. Other wise. Well war with Germany would come eventually and it would be war with a full Nazi Eroupe and that is easy enough to see. It should be plain the US needs allies heee.

More than a little ASB, I mean how does it come about that Germany doesn't walk over France? And how is Britain supposed to survive without massive loans from the US?
Ok, I made some mistakes. I never said Germany didn't or couldn't roll over France but even when France as rolled over OTL they still aided the Anti-Axis war effort so I still included them. i'm sorry I was overecited and not think my post throuigh completely.

As for England, maybe they won't survive, maybe they become governmrnt in eile in Austrilia or something. Of course.
 
Back in early 20th century, communism was like the plague to the US.

By the 1930s most western nations had stable trading relations with the Soviet Union and were moving towards normalizing foreign relations altogether once it (seemingly) became clear that Stalin didn't intend to go on an aggressive conquering spree or try to overthrow capitalism worldwide. There was still a level of mistrust (Naturally), but Nazi Germany was always seen as the greater threat.
 
Ok, I made some mistakes. I never said Germany didn't or couldn't roll over France but even when France as rolled over OTL they still aided the Anti-Axis war effort so I still included them. i'm sorry I was overecited and not think my post throuigh completely.
Vichy France only survived because they kowtowed to Hitler, if they'd tried to hang on they wouldn't have survived another month.

As for England, maybe they won't survive, maybe they become governmrnt in eile in Austrilia or something. Of course.
Sans Britain, Australia immediately turns to the US as an ally, as does Canada (if it's not conquered outright).

If anything like this went ahead it would quickly end with Britain going Vichy and Japan being conquered, and the war would be over by 1944, with Stalin in charge of Europe and Roosevelt running pretty much all of North America and the Pacific.
 
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