One thing you would change

Driftless

Donor
To fully live the "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." portion of the Declaration of Independence, regardless of race, religion, or gender.

No Slavery from the get-go

Early integration of Native Americans, or at the least, avoid the genocide.

Those are lofty goals that have proved enormously difficult to achieve. Greater success at the front of the process likely prevents the worst of our countries problems.
 
With a post-1900 PoD, I think the one thing I would change is for a the US to adopt in the 1935-50 period a true European-style "social security" program, with an effective single-payer national health-care system and federally provided and mandated vacation and sick leave not dependent of employment status.
 

jahenders

Banned
Congress: It would require an earlier POD to be effective, but I'd have Congress limited to FAR less than 435, something like 200. Actually, I'd limit the house to 100 and the senate to 50. Both would be more efficient and much cheaper.

No-Japanese internment. This was knee-jerk reaction with little relation to the actual strategic situation and it was then left in place WAY too long. FDR had several chances to kill it, but left it in place.

Better pre-war preparation -- always a good thing

Different outcome to the Chinese civil war -- stalemate or Nationalist win

Iran: I'm torn whether to prevent the 1953 coup or just the overthrow of the Shah

Drug War: Could have been done differently. Legalize marijuana earlier so it's not an issue, but hit the others harder.

Public school funding: I disagree with you there. Leave it to the states to fund as they see fit. The federal government should have far less role than it does. Also, if you do the research, you'll find that there's actually an inverse correlation between funding and student achievement in many cases. That is, NYC, DC, and Chicago are all VERY expensive but perform far worse than many less funded areas.

Electoral college: I'd keep it, but have some form of proportional allocation of the EVs within each state (vs winner take all). It DOES benefit the small states -- their votes have 3-4 times the power they'd have with direct popular vote.

Term-Limits: Strong term-limits on all federal elected, or ratified, offices. I want them working, not working on re-election.
House 1-4 year term
Senate 1-6 year term
President 1-5 year term
Circuit judges - Max 8 years
Supreme Court judges - Max 8 years

-Congressional Apportionment Act of 1929:
-No Japanese-American internment:
-Better American preparedness prior to WWI and WWII:
-Chinese Civil War:
-No Iranian coup in 1953:
No drug war:
Public school funding (unsure of exact POD):
Abolish electoral college (unsure of exact POD):
-22nd amendment
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Congress: It would require an earlier POD to be effective, but I'd have Congress limited to FAR less than 435, something like 200. Actually, I'd limit the house to 100 and the senate to 50. Both would be more efficient and much cheaper.

No-Japanese internment. This was knee-jerk reaction with little relation to the actual strategic situation and it was then left in place WAY too long. FDR had several chances to kill it, but left it in place.

Better pre-war preparation -- always a good thing

Different outcome to the Chinese civil war -- stalemate or Nationalist win

Iran: I'm torn whether to prevent the 1953 coup or just the overthrow of the Shah

Drug War: Could have been done differently. Legalize marijuana earlier so it's not an issue, but hit the others harder.

Public school funding: I disagree with you there. Leave it to the states to fund as they see fit. The federal government should have far less role than it does. Also, if you do the research, you'll find that there's actually an inverse correlation between funding and student achievement in many cases. That is, NYC, DC, and Chicago are all VERY expensive but perform far worse than many less funded areas.

Electoral college: I'd keep it, but have some form of proportional allocation of the EVs within each state (vs winner take all). It DOES benefit the small states -- their votes have 3-4 times the power they'd have with direct popular vote.

Term-Limits: Strong term-limits on all federal elected, or ratified, offices. I want them working, not working on re-election.
House 1-4 year term
Senate 1-6 year term
President 1-5 year term
Circuit judges - Max 8 years
Supreme Court judges - Max 8 years

I think you're overlooking that when a politician is "working on re-election" that he or she is actually working. Without the incentive to get re-elected, why would a politician do any work at all? He or she could literally sit in their office eating potato chips all day and it would have no effect on their future at all, since no matter what, they won't get re-elected. Besides, if what you are saying is true, then why are presidents always far less successful in their second terms than their first?
 

jahenders

Banned
Rail: Better rail transportation would be nice, but government has to be careful about picking technology winners

Alternative energy: I'm definitely a fan of US energy security. We could be using a lot more nuclear power than we are. As it is, we'd be hard pressed to generate enough power with wind/solar with today's technology and the cost of building/replacing a lot of infrastructure.

Vietnam War: Not doing it would obviously be good in retrospect. Failing that, we could have done unrestricted airstrikes from day 1. Mine every harbor, destroy every dam, bridge, power plant, airfield and building of any size. Destroy any ship entering NV waters. Make Hanoi look like Dresden or Hiroshima. Meanwhile, slap around our SV allies and tell them to stop screwing up or we're gone.

Space Exploration: Agree, more is better if done right.

Watergate: Not done. Nixon has a very successful 2nd term.

Strong Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac oversight. They were huge contributors to the problems of the housing bust and Presidents and Treasury Secs had been arguing for decades that it needed to be controlled, but Teddy Kennedy, Barney Frank, Byrd, etc prevented ANY oversight.

Gore: Disagree with you there. We probably don't invade Iraq, but we'd still be flying overwatch there. Hard to say what his response to 9/11 would be. He'd likely push all manner of over-the-top environmental laws/spending that would harm the economy.

Obama stimulus/universal health care: The stimulus was arguably too large and definitely ill-focused. ACA is clearly one of the worst written pieces of legislation in recent history (contributing to the court challenges) and was clearly based on misleading the public about the costs, funding, etc.

Stalin in WWII: I think we HAD to work with him, but in retrospect we should have given him less support (or lesser period of time) and NOT agreed to as much at Yalta, etc.


-better rail transport/no killing of electric car:
-more alternative energy sources:
-Vietnam War:
-More aggressive space exploration:

-Gore victory in 2000:
-Obama passes larger stimulus in 2009 and more progressive Health Care Act in 2010:
Not allying with Stalin during WWII:
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To fully live the "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." portion of the Declaration of Independence, regardless of race, religion, or gender.

No Slavery from the get-go

Early integration of Native Americans, or at the least, avoid the genocide.

Those are lofty goals that have proved enormously difficult to achieve. Greater success at the front of the process likely prevents the worst of our countries problems.

I agree with your sentiments, but some of these ideas might be ASB. Slavery has existed in almost every human society since the beginning of civilization. It wasn't until the Industrial Revolution made slavery a non-viable economic system that most societies began abolishing slavery. So I don't see slavery being completely abolished in 1789.

However, the implementation of Jim Crow in the south and the continuation of racial apartheid until well into the 20th century could have been prevented, or at least mitigated.
 
Term-Limits: Strong term-limits on all federal elected, or ratified, offices. I want them working, not working on re-election.
House 1-4 year term
Senate 1-6 year term
President 1-5 year term
Circuit judges - Max 8 years
Supreme Court judges - Max 8 years

Virginia has a single, 4-year term limit for its Governor. I think one would be very hard-pressed to argue that it has transformed the occupants of that office into diligent public servants.

If you really don't want elected officials working on their re-election, then you should probably favor public financing of all elections instead.

As for me: Carter re-elected in '80 is probably a good start. As a consolation prize, I'll take Gore selecting John Kerry instead of Joe Lieberman as his VP in 2000. That means Gore/Kerry wins New Hampshire, rendering the whole Florida recount fiasco a non-event.
 

jahenders

Banned
Japanese internment the ONLY black mark on FDR's presidency?

How about:
-Court-packing scheme
- Trying to cut military spending by 25% in 1932 and cutting 40% from veteran funding
- Giving too much to Stalin in WWII negotiations
- etc



Do you want a full list?
. US Constitution abolishes Slavery. This is the big one.
. No Japanese Interment Camps. Only black mark on FDR's Presidency.
. PRISM never happens. Greatest evil in modern day America.
. Abraham Lincoln never killed. Obvious.
. Dred Scott decision goes the other way. Slavery should have ended sooner.
. TR wins 1912. That's an obvious one.
. JFK never killed. Also obvious.
. Ted Kennedy wins 1980. Better then Reagan.
. Eugene McCarthy wins 1968. If only.
. Electoral College never exists. One of the most stupid things about American Presidential Elections.
. John P. Hale 1852. Free Soil.
. John C. Fremont 1856. Same.
. James M. Cox 1920. Anything to avoid Harding's corrupt Administration.
. Eugene V. Debs 1900. Start the American Century off well.
. Norman Thomas 1928. A Socialist in The Great Depression? Yeah, that'll work.
. Ralph Nader 1992. Socialism!
 
Rail: Better rail transportation would be nice, but government has to be careful about picking technology winners

Alternative energy: I'm definitely a fan of US energy security. We could be using a lot more nuclear power than we are. As it is, we'd be hard pressed to generate enough power with wind/solar with today's technology and the cost of building/replacing a lot of infrastructure.

Vietnam War: Not doing it would obviously be good in retrospect. Failing that, we could have done unrestricted airstrikes from day 1. Mine every harbor, destroy every dam, bridge, power plant, airfield and building of any size. Destroy any ship entering NV waters. Make Hanoi look like Dresden or Hiroshima. Meanwhile, slap around our SV allies and tell them to stop screwing up or we're gone.

Space Exploration: Agree, more is better if done right.

Watergate: Not done. Nixon has a very successful 2nd term.

Strong Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac oversight. They were huge contributors to the problems of the housing bust and Presidents and Treasury Secs had been arguing for decades that it needed to be controlled, but Teddy Kennedy, Barney Frank, Byrd, etc prevented ANY oversight.

Gore: Disagree with you there. We probably don't invade Iraq, but we'd still be flying overwatch there. Hard to say what his response to 9/11 would be. He'd likely push all manner of over-the-top environmental laws/spending that would harm the economy.

Obama stimulus/universal health care: The stimulus was arguably too large and definitely ill-focused. ACA is clearly one of the worst written pieces of legislation in recent history (contributing to the court challenges) and was clearly based on misleading the public about the costs, funding, etc.

Stalin in WWII: I think we HAD to work with him, but in retrospect we should have given him less support (or lesser period of time) and NOT agreed to as much at Yalta, etc.

Well, I disagree with your assessments about Gore and Obama and I would be more than welcome to hear your alternatives, though that might be better saved for the chat section.

As for aiding Stalin in WWII, again, giving him less support means that he fights the Nazis less, which means that the Western Allies in turn have to fight the Nazis more, leading to more casualties. As distasteful as it is to give that genocidal scum any assistance, the U.S. and GB do have their own troops to think about. As for Yalta, there was no agreement to give Stalin Eastern Europe at Yalta. Those countries were overrun by the Red Army. We did get Stalin to agree to hold free elections in Eastern Europe, which he never did, hence the Cold War.
 
Japanese internment the ONLY black mark on FDR's presidency?

How about:
-Court-packing scheme
- Trying to cut military spending by 25% in 1932 and cutting 40% from veteran funding
- Giving too much to Stalin in WWII negotiations
- etc

See my post above about Stalin and Yalta. BTW, here's a question for you: In 1944, one of the Western Allied leaders met with Stalin alone in Moscow and agreed to give Stalin a certain percentage of control over countries of Eastern Europe. This same Western leader was awarded an honorary Hero of the Soviet Union award at a State Dinner in his honor and the two leaders made gashing and friendly toasts to one another. Nearly a year later, Stalin expressed dismay and incredulous that this leader was no longer in power. Who was this Western leader, Roosevelt or Churchill? If you answered Churchill, you are 100% correct.

As for cuts in military budget, well, for one, Roosevelt wasn't president in 1932. For another, the U.S. never maintained a large standing military prior to the Cold War. During the Depression, there were huge demands for the government to cut spending, and with no war looming (at least in 1932), the military budget was the most obvious program to cut. In the late 1930s, with war seeming more likely, it was Roosevelt who was advocating for an increase in military spending.
 
Abolition of slavery from the get-go. Write that mess into the Constitution. Have a system set up where the blowback from instantaneous abolition is dealt with accordingly. There might be blood, but it'll hopefully be more on the level of the Whiskey Rebellion. Plantation owners form a militia and George Washington takes control of the situation.
 
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jahenders

Banned
At Yalta they did agree that Russia would take Berlin (and everything up to there). After that the allies didn't push to get to Berlin. That did save US/UK lives, but it did allow the Russians to take 1/2 of Germany and everything East.

You're right that he wasn't president in 1932 -- I mis-stated there -- he tried to cut dramatically FROM 1932 levels. Yes, there was a bad depression and money was tight, but had he not been stymied in his attempt to make those cuts, the military would have been in much more of a hole when he (did) later advocate for increases. If not defeated, his huge cuts to veterans benefits would have cost him some loyalty there and could have limited the military's trust in him later.

See my post above about Stalin and Yalta.

As for cuts in military budget, well, for one, Roosevelt wasn't president in 1932. For another, the U.S. never maintained a large standing military prior to the Cold War. During the Depression, there were huge demands for the government to cut spending, and with no war looming (at least in 1932), the military budget was the most obvious program to cut. In the late 1930s, with war seeming more likely, it was Roosevelt who was advocating for an increase in military spending.
 

jahenders

Banned
I think my main thing(s) to change would be in congressional processes/rules, but would have presidential implications:
1) A balanced budget (validated to be without blatant chicanery) must be passed by XX date. If not, every sitting member is ineligible or re-election FOREVER and their entire operating budget (including pay and benefits) is suspended until one is passed (and reduced proportional to the time lost). It's their #1 job and if they fail at that (which they usually do), they should be fired.

2) A non-partisan editorial office would review all bills to ensure they're written clearly and concisely and focus on a single cohesive issue. Otherwise, they're swiftly returned for rewrite. Congress routinely puts unrelated crap in every bill of consequence, often forcing them to accept wasteful or stupid crap. Most bills are needlessly (often intentionally) complex, written by a bunch of lawyers used to charging by the hour (or word).

3) Congressional pay, benefits, and retirement work as they do for government workers, including being affected by sequestration, etc. They don't get separate pay increases, etc.

4) Congressmen cannot vote unless PRESENT to vote. No one may vote for them, nor may they enter their vote after the fact.

5) All votes are on-the-record

6) All presidential appointees MUST be voted on within 90 days. If not done before then, the vote will push aside ALL other business on that day.

7) All bills in committee must be either rejected by majority vote or sent to the floor within 30 days. Committee leaders can't hold things hostage forever.

8) Filibusters must be real and in-person and can't be done on motions to proceed

9) Congressional seating is changed from its current partisan layout. Seating could be purely alphabetical, geographic, by seniority, etc. This would make political opponents more likely to talk to each other instead of just remaining in an "echo chamber" of like-thinking peers.
 
No 3/5 compromise. Dan Walker Howe in What Hath God Wrought points out all the things that would get butterflied away by this, including the Trail of Tears and (IIRC) the Mexican-American War.

More recently, I would love to see a successful People's Party. I'm not sure how to do this (maybe not endorsing William Jennings Bryan and continuing to build up their electoral alternative instead), because if they can succeed in creating biracial fusion coalitions in the South and attracting urban workers in the North, they would have been quite powerful, and might have managed to implement the cooperative commonwealth that they had argued for, as well as butterflying away Jim Crow. As Aziz Rana points out in The Two Faces of American Freedom, the Populists were the first of the great settler uprisings (the Revolution, the Jacksonian moment, the Lincoln-era Republicans) that was defeated. All of the previous ones had remade the United States in their image, and the Populists were perhaps the most egalitarian of the lot.
 
At Yalta they did agree that Russia would take Berlin (and everything up to there). After that the allies didn't push to get to Berlin. That did save US/UK lives, but it did allow the Russians to take 1/2 of Germany and everything East.

You're right that he wasn't president in 1932 -- I mis-stated there -- he tried to cut dramatically FROM 1932 levels. Yes, there was a bad depression and money was tight, but had he not been stymied in his attempt to make those cuts, the military would have been in much more of a hole when he (did) later advocate for increases. If not defeated, his huge cuts to veterans benefits would have cost him some loyalty there and could have limited the military's trust in him later.

The post-war boundaries of WWII were decided by the European Advisory Commission, which met in 1943. The only alteration made at Yalta was that France was given an occupation zone. If you read the biographies of FDR by Conrad Black, Jean Edward Smith, and H.W. Brands, you'll see all 3 of them mentioning that Roosevelt originally suggested that Berlin be part of the American zone, but the commission had to reject this idea as being logistically unfeasible given the planned route the Allies would take to Germany (one issue was that the British and American armies would have to criss-cross each other when advancing into Germany).

Roosevelt tried to cut defense spending in early 1930s, but so was everyone else. Roosevelt was slow to embrace Keynesian stimulus for one, and again, the U.S. never maintained a large peacetime military prior to the Cold War. This was firmly entrenched in American culture. Blaming Roosevelt for small military at the time would be like blaming George Washington for allowing slavery-it was part of the culture they lived in.
 
Yes - I assumed no change wrt the CJ

The Champ Clark story is online in various places, notably the NYT at
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9C03EEDD153EE033A25750C0A96F9C946496D6CF
Their version differs somewhat from my recollection, but other newspapers may have carried more details, and there seems to be no dispute about the essential point that he intervened to prevent a lynching. I'd be curious to learn whether any other Speaker of the House did anything of the sort while in office..

It was reported again at

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=950DE2DE1239E333A25755C0A9669D946496D6CF

Incidentally, the anti-lynching theme seems to have run in the family. I understand that some 20 years later Clark's son, now a US Senator, carried his support for an (unsuccessful) anti-lynching bill to the point of sticking up pictures of lynching victims - some of them hideously mutilated - in the Senate cloakroom. These Clarks evidently didn't mind ruffling feathers in a good cause.
 

Redbeard

Banned
Ehh, what to suggest:

No need for eight weeks of paperwork to bring a hunting rifle into USA. USians can buy a similar one in the nearest grocery store!

Apart from that I have no suggestions, you have done well. :)

Especially when comparing to all the previous super/great powers.
 
Confining oneself to a post-1900 POD (note: all of these should be considered separately):

  • TR persuades Taft to accept a Supreme Court appointment in (I believe)1902. Thus: no split in 1912, and TR beats Wilson.
  • The proposed 18th amendment is subjected to merciless financial and practical review, and is discarded as impractical / unenforceable / financially absurd.
  • Charles Dawes is SecTreas during the 1920s: with his practical banking and investment background and innovative qualities, he could / would have formulated an earlier analog of the SEC, quite possibly mitigating significantly the 1929 crash.
  • The Presidents' Conference Committee is formed in the early 1920s (say, 1922) rather than 1929. This would mean a streetcar capable of acquitting itself well in urban traffic (and allowing one man operation!) would have been in place that much sooner, likely preserving many more streetcar lines. While we're at it, a Son of PCC is formed in the early 1930s to address the ever-more-stringent requirements placed on trolley coaches. The result is a PCC analog for the trolley coach. Combined, these keep a lot more transit lines in the US and Canada under 00 bronze overhead.
  • Assuming events transpired as in OTL up to 7 December 1941, no Japanese internment. Most Nisei (as the term of the time had it) were soundly loyal Americans anyhow. Imagine a greater immigration of Japan's brightest lights to the US after the war, following a no-internment policy...
  • Dewey wins in '48. With a no-nonsense anti-communist like John Foster Dulles as SecState, it's rather doubtful that the incidents leading up to the Korean conflict happen.
  • Kennedy is not killed in 1963. Instead, he is re-elected (albeit rather narrowly) with somewhat declining health and the inevitable constraints of the 22nd amendment yielding a rather mediocre second term. The nation is spared the nonsense of a would-be Kennedy dynasty once and for all.
  • No Watergate. Enough said.
  • McCain chooses a running mate far more mainstream than Sarah Palin (a tough swallow, perhaps, but the vetted-yet-rejected Olympia Snowe comes to mind). Obama is never elected.
  • Romney / Ryan come down hard on Hillary "What difference does it make?" Clinton and thus Obama during the 2012 campaign. Obama is a one term president.
 
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This might need to get moved to Chat, but most of these criticisms are, I think, not well-founded.

I think my main thing(s) to change would be in congressional processes/rules, but would have presidential implications:
1) A balanced budget (validated to be without blatant chicanery) must be passed by XX date. If not, every sitting member is ineligible or re-election FOREVER and their entire operating budget (including pay and benefits) is suspended until one is passed (and reduced proportional to the time lost). It's their #1 job and if they fail at that (which they usually do), they should be fired.

This would make the position of "Budget Validator" -- presumably an unelective executive appointee, to boot! -- the single most powerful person in the country.

I should add that you've created an office with the power to abolish the entire legislative branch of our government (!) to solve a nonexistent problem. Economists may argue as to whether our current debt is too large, but no economist, as far as I know, argues that there's some sort of inherent problem with a government running a deficit. Indeed, most corporations and other organizations frequently operate at a deficit to adjust to market fluctuations; otherwise, your employer would be forced to lay people off every time there was a market downturn.

Do you really want that? Do you honestly want the U.S. government to have to cut vital programs every time there's an economic downturn?

2) A non-partisan editorial office would review all bills to ensure they're written clearly and concisely and focus on a single cohesive issue. Otherwise, they're swiftly returned for rewrite. Congress routinely puts unrelated crap in every bill of consequence, often forcing them to accept wasteful or stupid crap. Most bills are needlessly (often intentionally) complex, written by a bunch of lawyers used to charging by the hour (or word).

Another unelected official with dictatorial powers?? How exactly are you going to choose this "non-partisan editor?" Trust the President to pick a guy who pinky-swears he doesn't care about politics?

Omnibus bills do suck, but this solution is a hell of a lot worse than the problem.

(Side note: Congressional lawyers aren't paid by the hour.)

3) Congressional pay, benefits, and retirement work as they do for government workers, including being affected by sequestration, etc. They don't get separate pay increases, etc.

Yeah, I'm okay with that, although it doesn't particularly matter. Most members of Congress are already independently wealthy.

4) Congressmen cannot vote unless PRESENT to vote. No one may vote for them, nor may they enter their vote after the fact.

No one can vote on a Congressperson's behalf now.

5) All votes are on-the-record

I'm okay with this, too, but again: what problem do you think you're solving?

6) All presidential appointees MUST be voted on within 90 days. If not done before then, the vote will push aside ALL other business on that day.

Yeah, I'm okay with that, too.

7) All bills in committee must be either rejected by majority vote or sent to the floor within 30 days. Committee leaders can't hold things hostage forever.

So... committees vote bills down instead of tabling them. How does that help?

8) Filibusters must be real and in-person and can't be done on motions to proceed

Hey, this is a good idea!

9) Congressional seating is changed from its current partisan layout. Seating could be purely alphabetical, geographic, by seniority, etc. This would make political opponents more likely to talk to each other instead of just remaining in an "echo chamber" of like-thinking peers.

:D I can't tell if this is a joke, but if it is, it's kind of funny.
 
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