Map Thread XXII

In the midst of cleaning out a few things, I found some rough sketches I'd done a while ago of US election paralleling elections in a few other countries. Most "X as Y" election maps have to overcome the hurdle of very different electoral systems, but in this case all of the countries involved run elections on a first-past-the-post basis.

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Canada: President Joe Kennedy III, though seen as the living embodiment of the East Coast elite to the right (and more than a few on the left), remains broadly popular and lucky enough to live in a country where the electoral calculus works in his favor and the voting public is rather risk-averse. In the South, the once solidly left-wing Chicano independence movement is gradually tilting towards cultural issues and right-wing populism, but so far, a larger, bilingual alliance with the (rather tainted) Democratic Party remains anathema to many Aztlanistas. In a country with a fully nationalized healthcare system, a distinct lack of affordable housing, and a large pool of very talented immigrants, immigration is losing popularity across the political spectrum even as immigrants themselves are well liked.

Ireland: History was made in the most recent election when the U.S.' traditional two-party system at last ended. Fiat Fortuna and Pax Americana (originally the anti-treaty and pro-treaty parties of the Revolution and Civil war period of 1919-1923) reached a power-sharing agreement to prevent government control by the more radical Semper Fi. At a time when the United Kingdom is itself internally divided, fiery debate in the United States of America over the future of British North America threatens to reemerge as a central issue to some, scuttling hopes of continued economic integration with the United Kingdom and sucking out air time from other issues like the economy, an aging population, an agricultural sector that is dependent on subsidies, and the never-ending abortion debates.

Papua New Guinea: Horse-trading, parties that form and disappear like clockwork, and a political system centered around intense regionalism and "pork and barrel spending" show no signs of dissipating. After a twenty-year period of guerilla warfare on the Hawai'ian Islands (far away and out of mind for many Americans), the current government has made (still vague) gestures towards honoring the results of an independence referendum there, giving the opposition (which is mostly made up of the losers of the last round of horse-trading) something to criticize. Other issues (still lurking in the background) are regional economic cooperation, lack of international investment, and the opening of foreign military bases on U.S. soil.
 
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Well, that was somewhat less cordial than we like to see.

Constructive criticism is usually much more useful.
Perhaps phrased a bit harshly?

Talking like this is fine if I or someone who “knows” you (insofar as an online acquaintance can), like if I sent you a map & asked for ur thoughts, but maybe a bit blunt for random ppl on the map thread.

Maybe it’s more helpful to say what you find ugly about it?
Well I didn't think it was necessary to provide "constructive criticism" because the criticism is that the whole concept of upscaling a worlda is ugly. My constructive criticism would be "don't upscale worldas". Just use bigger basemaps if you need more pixels.
And I should clarify I wouldn't have bothered answering if the original post didn't ask "what do you all think?"
 
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The Entente and the Moscow Accord: Restoring the Birthright since 1814
Set in the Kaiserreich timeline in 1950, the map shows the aftermath of a game I played as Russia (with some liberties taken with the lore of the mod). ITTL the Moscow Accord and the Internationale crushed the Reichspakt between them, seemingly laying an Iron Curtain across Europe between socialists and monarchists. The Internationale then turned their attention to the Entente which had intervened in the war. Just when it seemed that all seemed lost for the Entente, Russia crossed the Rhine and marched west, intending to crush the revolution in a repeat of 1814. The Entente and the Accord came to an agreement to crush the Internationale together and restore France and Britain to the Exiles. After the war, the two alliances merged into a new Holy Alliance to enforce order and anti-socialism across the world.
 
What happened to the US-Canada border?
Slight Entente intervention in the US Civil War during a time when much of the north was occupied by the Combined Syndicates. They managed to defeat the CSA and left the other factions to fight it out among themselves, but kept some territory as "compensation".
 
In the midst of cleaning out a few things, I found some rough sketches I'd done a while ago of US election paralleling elections in a few other countries. Most "X as Y" election maps have to overcome the hurdle of very different electoral systems, but in this case all of the countries involved run elections on a first-past-the-post basis.

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Canada: President Joe Kennedy III, though seen as the living embodiment of the East Coast elite to the right (and more than a few on the left), remains broadly popular and lucky enough to live in a country where the electoral calculus works in his favor and the voting public is rather risk-averse. In the South, the once solidly left-wing Chicano independence movement is gradually tilting towards cultural issues and right-wing populism, but so far, a larger, bilingual alliance with the (rather tainted) Democratic Party remains anathema to many Aztlanistas. In a country with a fully nationalized healthcare system, a distinct lack of affordable housing, and a large pool of very talented immigrants, immigration is losing popularity across the political spectrum even as immigrants themselves are well liked.

Ireland: History was made in the most recent election when the U.S.' traditional two-party system at last ended. Fiat Fortuna and Pax Americana (originally the anti-treaty and pro-treaty parties of the Revolution and Civil war period of 1919-1923) reached a power-sharing agreement to prevent government control by the more radical Semper Fi. At a time when the United Kingdom is itself internally divided, fiery debate in the United States of America over the future of British North America threatens to reemerge as a central issue to some, scuttling hopes of continued economic integration with the United Kingdom and sucking out air time from other issues like the economy, an aging population, an agricultural sector that is dependent on subsidies, and the never-ending abortion debates.

Papua New Guinea: Horse-trading, parties that form and disappear like clockwork, and a political system centered around intense regionalism and "pork and barrel spending" show no signs of dissipating. After a twenty-year period of guerilla warfare on the Hawai'ian Islands (far away and out of mind for many Americans), the current government has made (still vague) gestures towards honoring the results of an independence referendum there, giving the opposition (which is mostly made up of the losers of the last round of horse-trading) something to criticize. Other issues (still lurking in the background) are regional economic cooperation, lack of international investment, and the opening of foreign military bases on U.S. soil.
The party names in this are so cool-reminiscent of the parties they're based on, but they still sound authentically American
 
In the midst of cleaning out a few things, I found some rough sketches I'd done a while ago of US election paralleling elections in a few other countries. Most "X as Y" election maps have to overcome the hurdle of very different electoral systems, but in this case all of the countries involved run elections on a first-past-the-post basis.

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Canada: President Joe Kennedy III, though seen as the living embodiment of the East Coast elite to the right (and more than a few on the left), remains broadly popular and lucky enough to live in a country where the electoral calculus works in his favor and the voting public is rather risk-averse. In the South, the once solidly left-wing Chicano independence movement is gradually tilting towards cultural issues and right-wing populism, but so far, a larger, bilingual alliance with the (rather tainted) Democratic Party remains anathema to many Aztlanistas. In a country with a fully nationalized healthcare system, a distinct lack of affordable housing, and a large pool of very talented immigrants, immigration is losing popularity across the political spectrum even as immigrants themselves are well liked.

Ireland: History was made in the most recent election when the U.S.' traditional two-party system at last ended. Fiat Fortuna and Pax Americana (originally the anti-treaty and pro-treaty parties of the Revolution and Civil war period of 1919-1923) reached a power-sharing agreement to prevent government control by the more radical Semper Fi. At a time when the United Kingdom is itself internally divided, fiery debate in the United States of America over the future of British North America threatens to reemerge as a central issue to some, scuttling hopes of continued economic integration with the United Kingdom and sucking out air time from other issues like the economy, an aging population, an agricultural sector that is dependent on subsidies, and the never-ending abortion debates.

Papua New Guinea: Horse-trading, parties that form and disappear like clockwork, and a political system centered around intense regionalism and "pork and barrel spending" show no signs of dissipating. After a twenty-year period of guerilla warfare on the Hawai'ian Islands (far away and out of mind for many Americans), the current government has made (still vague) gestures towards honoring the results of an independence referendum there, giving the opposition (which is mostly made up of the losers of the last round of horse-trading) something to criticize. Other issues (still lurking in the background) are regional economic cooperation, lack of international investment, and the opening of foreign military bases on U.S. soil.
Do you have one like india?
 
its essentially what if the USA were greekaboos instead of romaboos; at least, that's what it started out as, and is now a timeline filled with stuff like bismarck being ttls marx, marx being the most infamous criminal (with marxism = organized crime), and some guy we found on wikipedia becoming ttls hitler purely because he had an alliterative name (william wirt).
do you have a link ?
 
For much of Antiquity, Europa has been regarded as the frontier between civilization and barbarism. Along the coastline of the Syrian Sea(1), the great Libyphoenician and Helleni civilizations have reigned in some capacity for centuries, while further north, Keltoi, Frankani, Perunoi(2), and an assortment of other tribes have fought against each other and the empires to the south. Upon the dawn of the 14th Century N.Y.(3), it appears as though barbarism has won. Invasions by nomadic tribes on the Europan frontier has long been a reality of the region, however, the late 12th Century N.Y. saw the beginning of an unprecedented level of migrations and invasions brought about by the invasion of the Ounnoi(4). A mysterious nomadic people that later scholars would theorize to have originated from a land to the north of Huaxia(5), the Ounnoi conquered much of northeastern Europa upon their arrival in the region, subjugating several tribes, and even successfully raiding the Helleni basileias to their south, forcing Pontos, Macedonia, and the Seleucids to all pay tribute in order to evade further sackings. The Ounnoi empire would be relatively short-lived, collapsing following the death of their leader in the late 13th Century N.Y., yet their impact on Europan history is nonetheless irreversible. In the process of invading northern Europa, the Ounnoi displaced numerous Frankani tribes, causing them to push to the south and west of their homeland in Old Frankana(6). This primarily came at the expense of Helleni civilization, which had been weakened by decades of raids by the Ounnoi and Frankani alike. Most notably, the Tervingi crossed from their homeland to the north of the Istros River(7), leading a coalition of Frankani tribes in a war against the Basileia of Macedonia in the 1190s and overwhelming the empire that had once forged the Hellenistic World with the sword of Alexander the Great centuries prior, annexing Thrake into a growing Tervingi empire in the aftermath. Peace was brief, and only twenty years later, the Tyrant Alarīks I of the Tervingi(8) led a second campaign against Macedonia as tensions flared up. This time, however, the Tervingi sacked the Macedonian capital of Pellas in 1225 N.Y. and brought an end to the Basileia of Macedonia in its entirely thereafter. With the ancient Antigonid dynasty deposed, Alarīks declared himself emperor of the Tervingi and Macedonians, destroying Helleni rule over their own homeland and signifying a radical shift in Europan history as the Syrian civilizations of the south were picked apart and new empires rose in the growing power vacuum.

Over the coming decades, many Frankani tribes would follow the example of Alarīks and invade a vulnerable southeastern Europa as the Ounnoi and Keltoi squeezed them out of their native lands. Yet with the exception of the Markōmanniz conquest of Liguria, the vast Mahanetarchy of Qarthago was spared the Ounnoi invasions and their aftermath. This was not due to military strength, but rather a combination of the Keltoi nations to the north serving as a shield against Frankani incursions to the southwest and the dumb luck of the Frankani simply settling in the Helleni southeast first. In fact, the Mahanetarchy of the 13th Century was a shadow of the mighty empire that Hannibal the Liberator had built six centuries prior. The War of the Mizrehims and the replacement of Barcid rule with a period known as the Timocratic Mahanetarchy saw a total reconstruction of the political and economic system of Antiquity's most powerful empire by the victorious Gisgonids, changes that would arguably doom ancient Qarthago to a slow decline. The victory of Gisgonid forces, backed by the Libyan League and Cult of Olympus mizrehims(9) in the War of the Mizrehims circa 831 N.Y. resulted in the rule of the Barcid dynasty being swept away in favor of a social structure dominated by the finances of the mizrehims and their leadership of wealthy landowners. Amongst its most notable reforms, the Constitution of 831 transformed the Rab Mahanet from a hereditary position elected amongst the sons of the reigning Rab Mahanet to a position freely elected by the Adirim, decentralized the Mahanetarchy by allowing for the popular assemblies of eparchies to elect their sufetes and determine their own system of government, and prohibited the state from regulating, directing the affairs of, or seizing the property of mizrehims or private landowners. More succinctly put, the Timocratic Mahanetarchy began as a decentralized federation of eparchies that kept their hands out of economic affairs, instead left up to competing mizrehims, with some eparchies going even further, such as requiring all land to privately owned for "productive contributions", abolishing taxation in favor of voluntary contributions, or restricting participation in popular assemblies to private landowners.

The plutocratic structure of the Timocratic Mahanetarchy initially gave way to a deeply corrupt yet nonetheless relatively stable system of vast competing mizrehims jockeying for control over the Mahanetarchy, which remained a cohesive state for the time being. While political power still theoretically rested in the hands of countless popular assemblies of Qarthago, in reality, private interests dominated political affairs through an elaborate system of bribery and the coercion of officials through oftentimes owning the vast majority of land, employing the vast majority of citizens, and providing the vast majority of goods within respective settlements. In Aethiopia in particular, participation in popular assemblies was gradually restricted to property ownership as a way to maintain the power of the new landowning class, and more often than not, popular assemblies were irrelevant anyway as the responsibilities of governments were transferred to private entities. Yet the conquests of Zephyrusic lands starting in the 9th Century N.Y. and the vast prosperity that came with it, both through resource extraction and control of trade routes connecting the planet, kept Qarthago unified and content for the time being. Within the next two hundred years, mizrehim-funded expeditions had even managed to form maritime trade routes extending as far east as Huaxia, although contact with this distant corner of the world nonetheless remained incredibly limited for centuries. Yet two centuries of plutocratic Rab Mahanets ceding more and more authority to private enterprise gave way to an arrangement where the Mahanetarchy was an increasingly ineffective institution. By the 11th Century N.Y., Qarthago had become a confederacy of largely independent states, with the respective eparchies maintaining their own defenses, foreign relations, and even colonial empires. The Adirim and Rab Mahanet remained as unifying institutions, but as the eparchies evolved into sovereign powers in their own right, their role was effectively relegated to raising funds for an increasingly weaker Qarthagi military and resolving disputes between eparchies.

The Libyan War of the late 11th Century made the weaknesses of Qarthago especially apparent, as competing factions within the reigning Libyan League turned on each other, won the support of various eparchies (or simply took them over) and waged a gruesome war between each other that ultimately dissolved the Libyan League into an assortment of local mizrehims. Despite encompassing the bulk of its territory, Qarthago remained neutral in the Libyan War, symbolizing the true extent of the decline of the power of the Mahanetarchy as internal warfare between the eparchies became commonplace. The next two centuries have not been any more kind to Qarthago. Libyphoenician civilization nonetheless across the planet, however, the plutocrats of the divided empire waged war for colonies in Zephyrusia(10) before the gold mine slave-turned revolutionary hero Abdqart led a crusade of independence against colonial rule by mizrehims and declared the Mahanetarchy of the Mesozephyrusic League as a sovereign empire in the west(11). The eparchies thereby turned east, establishing collections of trading outposts and settled colonies in Abantuca(12) and along the Erythraean Ocean(13). Meanwhile, in the north, the Gymnesid Dynasty and Cult of Olympus have emerged as rivals within the Mahanetarchy, and their diversion of resources towards each other has allowed for Keltoi and Frankani alike to conquer territory held by Libyphoenician civilization for centuries. The Mahanetarchy of Qarthago continues on, but it is a shadow of its former self, viewed increasingly as an obsolete institution by its own de jure subjects.

As the Helleni and Libyphoenician civilizations have declined, however, Keltoi empires have emerged as new powers throughout western Europa. While the Allobrogics and Boioi have fallen under the protection of the Helleni-Libyphoenician Cult of Olympus mizrehim, the Aruernoi, once a tributary of Qarthago in its heyday, has emerged as a powerful military force, expanding north to conquer neighboring Galatai states and pushing south to annex coastal Qarthagi cities. Just to its south, the Tyranny of the Keltoi was born from a Keltoi slave revolt in Barcidia(14), conquering several eparchies in the process and posing a significant threat to Qarthagi control over one of its oldest and most profitable holdings. Further north, the island of Prettanika saw the emergence of a number of native states following the rise of Libyphoenician colonies from trading posts in the southwest. Of these native Keltoi states, the Briganti Tyranny is the largest and most powerful as of 1300 N.Y., with the potential to grow into a regional power in the coming centuries. Yet by far the most successful of the Keltoi states is the Belgoi Confederacy, which has expanded since its formation in the 10th Century to construct an empire spanning from Old Frankana to northern Galatia(15). Originally formed from an alliance of Belgoi tribes that had grown wealthy from trading with the Libyphoenicians and even forming mizrehims of their own, Belgoilandā has since grown into the greatest of the Keltoi nations, boasting a strong military and benefiting from being located at the junction of several northern Europan trade routes. Unlike the weakened Libyphoenician and Helleni civilizations, the Belgoi boasted a well-defended border and were more than capable of repelling Frankani invasions during the Ounnoi migrations of the 13th Century, and in retaliation, the Belgoi launched retaliatory invasions of their own, forcing hostile Frankani tribes to flee their homelands, surrender and be assimilated into Belgoi culture, or be slaughtered and enslaved. Upon the dawn of the 14th Century, the dust of the Ounnoi migrations has settled and Belgoilandā now stands as yet another great Europan power, having secured a number of vassals seeking protection from invasions, including those of the Belgoi themselves, in the process.

Europa enters the 14th Century forever changed. Athens is ruled over by a Frankani tyrant, the Mahanetarchy of Qarthago is an empire in name only as its oligarchs cannibalize the former ruler of the world, and the Keltoi, once enslaved, pillaged, and forced to pay tribute by the mighty empires to their south, have amassed powerful empires of their own. The city of Qarthago is increasingly no longer the center of the world, and plutocrats, tyrants, and warlords alike all compete for glory an increasingly uncertain and unstable future.

Points of Interest

  • Still the largest city in the world, Qarthago has nonetheless seen better days. While still one of the most prominent commercial hubs in the world, the emergence of trade routes around Abantuca and the growth of the city of Hannibalia has caused its status to decline, and an attempt to invade Qarthago by the eparchies of Libyphoenicia and Adrymetos in the late 11th Century resulted in the city to be sacked for the first time in its history in 1098, before a coalition of forces loyal to the Rab Mahanet retook the Mahanetarchy's capital and defeated the usurpers. Qarthago has thus remained under the direct rule of the Rab Mahanet and, as punishment, Libyphoenicia and Adrymetos were annexed into the Rab Mahanet's personal domain as punishment for their treason, forming a territory simply referred to as Libyphoenicia that remains the last corner of the Mahanetarchy ruled directly by the central government in Qarthago. To Libyphoenicia's west, the eparchies of Rusadir, Shigan, Iol, and Ubon, once strongholds of the pro-centralization Cult of the Sacred Hannibal mizrehim, have inherited the Hannibalid support for a strong state, and despite not being able to intervene in economic affairs under the Constitution of 831, the Libyphoenician gentry of these eparchies have maintained the taxation and political authority necessary to be some of the few Qarthagi states to fully fund government services as opposed to privatization, including maintaining standing armies instead of relying on private mercenaries. This is not to say that mizrehims and landowning oligarchs do not have significant influence over the internal politics of these eparchies, utilizing elaborate systems of patrimonialism to influence the popular assemblies and Ubon in particular restricting assembly participation to property owners, however, they remain some of the few places in the Mahanetarchy where mizrehims still compete for political and economic influence internally, as opposed to simply holding unbreakable monopolies, and where political authority over a given territory has not yet been transferred over to a private mizrehim.​
  • The Eparchy of Garamanteca has, perhaps surprisingly given its harshly arid (and initially landlocked) territory, emerged as one of the greatest Libyphoenician powers in the age of the Timocratic Mahanetarchy. Created from the once-independent Garamante civilization and originally spanning a large yet sparsely-populated territory in the Libyeremos desert(16), Garamanteca first centered around the oasis city of Garama, a key hub in trans-Libyeremos trade networks. By the end of the 10th Century N.Y., Garama's non-renewable aquifers that it had depended on to be agriculturally productive for over a millennium had finally dried up, thus sparking a famine in Garamanteca and risking dooming the city in the process, however, the economic value of Garama to merchants and, by extension the Qarthagi economy as a whole, caused oligarchs to frantically coordinate methods of delivering freshwater and crops cultivated on the Syrian coastline into the eparchy. Since then, Garamanteca has flourished. Ruled by a hereditary monarchy descended from a Libyan(17) merchant family that had grown rich and influential from coordinating relief during the Garama Famine, Garamanteca's Bogud dynasty spent centuries amassing private control over Libyeremos' trade routes, the bulk of their own eparchy's domestic economy, and the foreign farmland that would feed their nation. Garamanteca is thus one of a handful of Libyphoenician states that adheres to an interesting social structure, whereby the state remains sovereign and exerts considerable control over its economic affairs through the private ownership of a monopoly by its rulers. While Garamanteca previously wielded substantial influence over the Libyeremos eparchies through the Bogud holdings, the Libyan War allowed for Garamantca to directly annex Hesperidic and Eosidic Libyeremos, as well as Awjila and Gaetulicia. Over the coming centuries, the Eparchy of Garamanteca has further expanded its power within the heart of Qarthago, waging wars against its neighbors and having forced Masaesylia, Masinissa, and Gao as vassals. Garamanteci territory remains sparsely populated, however, the trade routes of the desert continue flowing wealth through its empire every day, and agreements negotiated by the Bogud dynasty with the nomadic Libyan tribes of Libyeremos, where they are ceded territory to govern in return for paying tribute and swearing fealty to the Sufet-Tyrant of Garamanteca, have given it an unprecedented degree of control over the heart of the desert. Furthermore, many Libyan nomads have opted to assimilate into Garamanteci society, with sedentary settlements sprouting up throughout the Libyeremos.​
  • The Italic Peninsula has been under the influence of the Cult of Olympus, a mizrehim dedicated to promoting the culture and interests of the considerable Helleni minority of Qarthago, since the days of the Barcid Mahanetarchy. From its base of power in Syrakousai, the Cult of Olympus aligned with Gisgonid forces in the War of the Mizrehims, correctly calculating that it could eliminate Hannibalid influence in Italia. In the centuries since, the Cult of Olympus has become one of the most powerful mizrehims in the Mahanetarchy, holding a de facto monopoly on farmland, slave trading, maritime commerce, and banking in Italia, thereby giving it the capacity to essentially strong-arm the local eparchies into implementing whatever policies it desires or else face economic ruin. If this wasn't enough, the Cult of Olympus used its influence in the 10th Century to coerce the Helleni-majority eparchies of southern Italia (as well as Massalia and Maleth) into becoming its protectorates, agreeing to military protection by Olympian mercenary forces in exchange for granting the mizrehim total control over their merchant fleets and ports, the ability to veto any foreign policy of its protected eparchies, and agreements by the eparchies to protect and promote the Helleni language and pantheon. Having expanded its power south by expelling the Libyan League from eparchies to the west of Aigyptos(18) during the Libyan War, the Cult of Olympus' stranglehold on the western Syrian Sea has come to be rivaled by the Gymnesid Dynasty. Born from the unification of the eparchies of Balearica and Qart Hadasht under a personal union following the election of Balearica's ruling Gymnesid family to the sufetship of the latter, the Gymnesid Dynasty has, similarly to Garamanteca, amassed economic influence and influenced its economy through its namesake ruling dynasty's personal fortune, although, unlike Garamanteca, the Gymnesids do not wield a monopoly within their domain. The renowned navy of the Gymnesid Dynasty has been the primary way through which rising power has exerted its influence, offering protection of eparchies in return for the integration of their militaries into the Gymnesid armed forces, the payment of significant tribute, and the occasional cessation of key port cities. Offering a more hands-off attitude towards the domestic affairs of its protectorates than the Olympians, the Gymnesid Dynasty has become a tempting alternative for the western Syrian states and has fought numerous wars against the Cult of Olympus since its formation two hundred years ago. The Olympians may have been expelled from Barcidia, however, they have since secured the Keltoi nations of Allobrogica and Boioica as protectorates, and also haven't had to fend off the expansion of the Tyranny of the Keltoi. Stuck between the middle of the two is the neutral Eparchy of Roma, a hereditary monarchy under the rule of the Barcid dynasty that has continued the family's centuries-old tradition since the days of Hannibal the Liberator of ruling the conquered city of Qarthago's ancient adversary. Maintaining a relatively centralized regime under the Barcids, Roma has managed to be quite stable under increasingly-chaotic Timocratic Mahanetarchy.​
  • In the absence of Qarthagi influence in Galatia, the Belgoi Confederacy has emerged as a new regional power. Once a collection of competing tribes influenced by their Keltoi and Frankani neighbors culturally while largely being isolated from Qarthago, the Belgoi first established lasting trade relations with Libyphoenician civilization (and, by extension, the rest of the known world) as early as the 7th Century N.Y., when the Barcid dynasty established its first trading outposts in Belgoilandā. Given their proximity to the outposts and thereby easiest access to foreign markets, the coastal Belgoi tribes prospered the most in this time period, and none more so than the Ambiāni, which had already grown influential amongst surrounding tribes centuries prior via its extensive coinage. The Ambiāni grew wealthy through trade with Qarthago, and as the Belgoi coastal tribes developed into sedentary states, they likewise imported Libyphoenician concepts of private landownership, with Ambiāni nobility enclosing tracts of land and its ruling family (later referred to as the Ambianids) possessing a particularly large holding of farmland to be worked on by sharecroppers. Indeed, in the early 10th Century N.Y., Axrotalus, the chieftain of the Ambiāni, consolidated his familial and personal holdings into the League of Samarobriva, a mizrehim under the hereditary leadership of the Ambianids that owned property throughout Belgoilandā and won the investments of various Belgoi nobles hoping to grow rich through economic ties to the Mahanetarchy. Only a century later, the Ambianids were the the dominant economic players in Belgoilandā thanks to the League of Samarobriva, and in 1044, Axrotalus' descendent, Lutumaros, called upon a council of the Belgoi nations to elect the Rix(19) of all Belgoi, believing that a unified Belgoi state would better protect Ambianid economic interests and resist foreign incursions. Unsurprisingly given the influence of the League of Samarobriva, the Council of 1044 elected Lutumaros as the first Rix of Belgoilandā, thus forming the Belgoi Confederacy as a federal elective monarchy whereby the constituent tribes of the Belgoi would elect a rix to rule over their common empire. A coalition of independent tribes within the Belgoi interior, led by the Suessoini-Rēmi personal union, resisted Rix Lutumaros I's claim of overlordship, however, these forces were quickly subdued and annexed into the Confederacy in the War of Belgoi Unification. Having been led by the Ambianids ever since through the strong influence they wield over the Adirim (the legislature of Belgoilandā, which consists of one representative for each member nation and the League of Samarobriva) and the League of Samarobriva's right to veto any decision made by the rix and Adirim rendering a government not cooperating with the Ambianids useless regardless, the Belgoi Confederacy has forged a fearsome empire, conquering the Aremoric tribes to its south, partitioning the Aiduoi League with the Aruernoi Empire, and even securing territorial holdings and vassals in southern Prettanika. Yet its greatest feat has arguably been its victories against the slew of Frankani tribes attempting to cross the Rēnos(20) starting in the 12th Century N.Y. whilst attempting to flee the Ounnoi invasions. With a strong and disciplined army, the Belgoi were not only able to repel their invaders, but crossed the Rēnos in retaliation, conquering much of Old Frankana. The tribes that didn't flee the Belgoi invasion were massacred, enslaved, or had their respective nations declared the private holdings of the League of Samarobriva, and by 1300 N.Y., the remaining Frankani under Belgoi control have largely assimilated into their conqueror's culture as their own language and religion dies out.​
  • Prettanika and Hibernia have long been regarded as the untamed periphery of Europa, and in many ways, that remains true upon the dawn of the 14th Century. Yet the twin islands have not only been integrated into colonizing civilizations, but have become home to native civilizations in their own right as well. Furthest west is Hibernia, which first fell under the influence of Qarthago via the establishment of trading outposts owned by the Barcid family on the island circa the late 8th Century. Following the War of the Mizrehims, both the Libyan League and the Hannigad family established outposts of their own, and without as many well-defended native nations as Prettanika, Hibernia became the preferred target of enslavement and colonization in the region. By the 11th Century, Hibernia had been fully conquered by the Mahanetarchy of Qarthago and partitioned into eparchies, with Iouenica becoming a colony of the Hannigad-ruled Eparchy of Hannibalia, Darica becoming a monarchy ruled by an offshoot of the Barcids, and the middle of Hibernia consisting of five eparchies governed by sufetes appointed directly by the Libyan League. It was within these central Libyan eparchies that a class of native Hibernians who had assimilated into colonial society and owned tracts of private land of various sizes had become most prominent, with the Libyan League relying upon the so-called "Libyhibernian" gentry to aid in the administration of the interior. Ultimately, however, Libyhibernian landowners grew resentful of their economic and political domination by the distant Libyan League and banded together to stage an uprising against their colonial rulers in the Libyan War. Having seized Libyan property and overthrown Libyan colonial regimes in Hibernia after the conflict, the Libyhibernian gentry reorganized their eparchies into plutocratic oligarchies whose governments were elected by landowners and sent delegates to the Adirim of the Libyhibernian Eparchies, a confederacy that oversees the common defense and foreign affairs of its member eparchies. The nations of Prettanika have fared better than those of Hibernia, with the Briganti emerging as a regional power while the Corieltavi have unified under a mahanetarchy of their own, however, the most powerful entity on the island is the Barcid-ruled Mahanetarchy of Prettanika. Descended from Barcid colonies in southwestern Prettanika established to mine the ore deposits in Ordowika and Dumnoica, the Mahanetarchy can trace its origins to the accumulation of local tribes as vassals of the colonizing Barcid family shortly after the War of the Mizrehims. After the Libyan War, this system of vassalage was reorganized into the Mahanetarchy of Prettanika, a confederation modeled after the Timocratic Mahanetarchy where a Rab Mahanet would be elected from amongst the Prettani Barcids to rule over its constituent states. The Mahanetarchy of Prettanika is thus a bizarre political arrangement, consisting of members both independent of and eparchies of the Qarthago. While Prettanika was originally ruled by a single branch of the Barcids, the Prettani Barcids have split into a Ordowi and Dumnoi wing ruling their respective eparchies over the centuries, and the two have repeatedly jockeyed for influence and the election of one of their own as the Rab Mahanet ever since, thus dividing the internal politics of the Prettanika between two increasingly belligerent families.​
  • There is, at least in Apeliotesia, perhaps no greater symbol of the Mahanetarchy of Qarthago's fall from grace than the Tyranny of the Keltoi. One of the earliest conquests of the Mahanetarchy, the Barcidic Peninsula had long been a significant source of wealth for Qarthago thanks to its Keltoi slaves and tin mines. Powered by an extraction-based economy propped up by the labor of chattel slave Keltoi, Barcidia's native population never really assimilated into the Libyphoenician culture of their masters, with Qarthagi oligarchs benefiting from a caste system of Libyphoenician and Helleni settlers exploiting the Keltoi, whose enslavement was hereditary. This arrangement had survived well into the age of the Timocratic Mahanetarchy, at which point the Barcidic coastline along the Syrian Sea had grown to be dominated by urban Libyphoenician settlements while the more rugged interior and northeast consisted of a settler elite ruling over an exploited Keltoi majority. Starting in the 12th Century, Barcidia became a frontline of early warfare between the Gymnesid Dynasty and the Cult of Olympus, which both devastated Keltoi communities targeted for reprisals and gradually weakened occupying forces in the Barcidic eparchies. Over time, the Gymnesid-Olympian Wars therefore wore down Qarthagi authority over an increasingly enraged Keltoi underclass in Barcidia, and, inspired by the Mesozephyrusic slave uprising in the west, the enslaved Keltoi took arms in a revolution of their own in the 1210s N.Y. Led by the charismatic ex-slave Buntalos, the Keltoibarcidic War began in the northwestern eparchy of Gallaecia, the beating heart of Qarthago's tin supplies, and quickly expanded southwards with the promise of land and freedom for Keltoi slaves who took arms under the command of Buntalos. Meanwhile, the Gymnesids and Olympians were engaged in yet another war over Barcidia, thus dividing Qarthagi forces and giving Buntalos an easy opening to rapidly secure territory. After over a decade of combat, as a coalition of Qarthagi forces assembled by the Adirim itself (the first time it had raised an army since Abdqart's War in Zephyrusia) arrived in Barcidia, a peace agreement was finally negotiated in 1224 N.Y., establishing the borders between the Tyranny of the Keltoi and Mahanetarchy that continue to exist as of 1300 N.Y. Keltoibarcidia, as the Tyranny is known in Qarthago, has been despised by the Libyphoenicians ever since and a second war on the Barcidic Peninsula is a looming threat, however, the Keltoi monarchy ruled by Buntalos' grandson has secured positive relations with its fellow Keltoi in Galatia and Prettanika while Mesozephyrusia views Keltoibarcidia as a sister revolutionary state against the Timocratic Mahanetarchy, and its tin mines don't hurt when trying to trade with the outside world. Under Buntalos I, the Tyranny of the Keltoi sought to restore the political and social structure of Barcidia's native population, abolishing markets and private land ownership in favor of land being bestowed to and passed down through families rather than held for profit, currency being rejected domestically in favor of encouraging barter (although Keltoibarcidia still utilizes coinage for foreign trade), worship of Keltoi gods and speaking ancient Keltoibarcidic languages being promoted, and Libyphoenician gentry in Barcidia being expelled (or executed) while their property has either been seized by the state or parceled out to families in order to break up the plutocratic economic system of the peninsula. Nonetheless, it has been impossible to truly undo centuries of Qarthagi cultural influence. Keltoi languages are only really spoken by the country's intellectuals while Libyphoenician is still the primary language of the vast majority of its populace, Qarthreskia, the pantheon of Qarthago, remains the dominant religion in Keltoibarcidia, Libyphoenician architecture, art, and other culture survives, and, while the oligarchs of Barcidia fled following the Keltoibarcidic War, the commoner Libyphoenician population of Keltoibarcidia has mostly stayed, leaving the Tyranny of the Keltoi with a sizable Libyphoenician minority that is mostly tolerated as long as it abides to the political and economy structures of the new regime.​

Footnotes
  • 1) OTL's Mediterranean Sea.
  • 2) OTL Celts, Germanics, and Slavs respectively. In the case of the Germanics, their name ITTL is derived from the Franks, which are one of the first tribes that the Qarthagi come into contact and are extinct as of 1300 N.Y., as an exonym for by Qarthago. In the case of the Slavs, their name is derived from Perun, the highest god in ancient Slavic mythology.
  • 3) Qarthago uses a lunisolar calendar somewhat similar to the OTL Hebrew Calendar, with the supposed founding of Carthage in 814 B.C. being considered the start of the "Kenaani Calendar". For context, this means that the Mahanetarchy's formation circa 614 N.Y. ("New Year") is the equivalent to 200 B.C. on the Gregorian Calendar and 1300 N.Y., the current year depicted, is 486 A.D.
  • 4) OTL Huns. The Central Asian Steppes haven't really been all that significantly impacted by the POD yet, so the events leading up to the Hunnic invasions are largely the same ITTL, it's just that the Europe they end up invading is radically different from OTL.
  • 5) OTL China.
  • 6) Roughly the historical region of OTL Germania. By the modern day ITTL, Germanics have largely left the region, have been assimilated, or have been ethnically cleansed.
  • 7) OTL's Danube River.
  • 8) Butterflies would mean that Alaric as we know him from OTL doesn't exist, but Alarīks is someone who would vaguely correspond to him, in the sense that he is descended from the same people and plays a similar role. Very basically, Alarīks is descended from what we'd think of as the Balt dynasty and grows up in the OTL Balkans, rises through the ranks of the Tervingi, and assumes leadership of the nation around the 1210s (mid-390s to mid 400s A.D.) ITTL. Given that "Alarīks" means "Ruler of all" in Gothic, I feel like it's still an appropriate name for the guy who conquered Greece.
  • 9) Originally starting out as interest groups in OTL, the mizrehims ITTL develop into sophisticated associations of oligarchs owning large tracts of land, who in turn use their wealth to finance political and cultural interests. Think joint-stock companies combined with political parties. Under the Timocratic Mahanetarchy, an economic system akin to laissez-faire capitalism in which the mizrehims were left to their own devices was imposed, and as state authority has weakened, the mizrehims have filled the void of providing social services and, in some cases, have gone as far as to provide military defenses as mercenaries and enforce laws. By 1300 N.Y., the mizrehims have long since become political institutions in their own right, using their monopolies within their respective eparchies to turn their governments into protectorates and even outright declaring eparchies their own private property to the south of Garamanteca.
  • 10) OTL's New World, which becomes known to the Old World (Apeliotesia) as Zephyrusia (Greek for the "Land of the Western Wind") over time. In order to more efficiently regulate colonial affairs, the Zephyrusic Mahanetarchy of Qarthago was established with an Adirim and Rab Mahanet independent of the Apeliotesic Mahanetarchy, however, with most colonies either owned or under the heavy influence of mizrehims back east, this did little to increase colonial autonomy in practice.
  • 11) In the 12th Century N.Y., a revolt led by Abdqart, a slave working in Qarthagi colonial goldmines in OTL Colombia, overthrew the Zephyrusic Mahanetarchy of Qarthago and declared the Mahanetarchy of the Mesozephyrusic League as an independent empire encompassing most Qarthagi colonies in the OTL Caribbean and South America, with himself elected as its first Rab Mahanet. Viewing its revolution as the restoration of democratic popular assemblies that had originally been the basis of political power under Hannibal I, Mesozephyrusia abolished mizrehims and private land ownership in favor of a system of communal ownership by the assemblies.
  • 12) Roughly OTL Sub-Saharan Africa, with the exception of West Africa and the Horn of Africa.
  • 13) OTL's Indian Ocean.
  • 14) OTL Iberia.
  • 15) OTL Gaul.
  • 16) OTL's Sahara Desert.
  • 17) OTL Berbers, with North Africa to the west of Egypt as a whole being called Libya.
  • 18) OTL Egypt.
  • 19) A term used by the Galatai and Belgoi ITTL to refer to a king.
  • 20) OTL's Rhine River.
 
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Here's my cover of GURPS Ming-3 in which Zheng He continues his voyages and China comes to dominate the world after an industrial revolution. You might ask how the Ming can control half the world and I would tell you that's just how it is in the source material though it is clear that the age of the Ming is coming to a close.

For those interested in the full writeup, you can find it in its 18,000 word glory here. I can also answer questions here.
Russia erasure again! :coldsweat:
 
So this is a map I found from Reddit from the user Yangtzy015. Basically it's a scenario where Pakistan and Afghanistan are united under the Afghan monarchy right after the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. In OTL, there were talks for the two countries to be united but they never went anywhere. I like this scenario since for once it doesn't involve Pakistan nor Afghanistan being partitioned. And this definitely looks like a way better scenario than OTL, though far from the most ideal.
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This is an expansion of my other Loyal to the Crown map (It's also going to be the last map featuring that timeline) with it showing the rest of the world.


POD: With the success of the Battle of Saratoga, British forces in Canada would successfully move down south to split the rebelling colonies. The patriots would be dealt another blow with General George Washington being killed in the Battle of Albany. The patriots would face a power struggle would endure with several generals now scrambling against each other to become the new general of the continental army. By January 1778, British forces would soon reach New York City, splitting up New England and the rest of the colonies. New York would soon surrender to the British, causing panic across the rest of the United States. By June 1778, British troops would capture Philadelphia, capturing most of the continental congress and causing most states to surrender to the British. The remaining members fled to Richmond. Despite this, the war effort largely collapsed with most of the continental army surrendering say for the remaining few troops and states. By 1779 the last state, New Hampshire and North Carolina surrendered, ending the American Rebellion.


NORTH AMERICA:
Following the American Rebellion, British North America would experience several reforms to prevent another revolt. A parliament was established (functions similar to how OTL Canada or Australia would). Varying degrees of autonomy would be set up for the colonies. For their loyalty, Native Americans that sided with the British would be given autonomous areas within the colonies, where they act similarly to the British princely state in the British Raj. The 13 colonies would later be referred to as Columbia by both those living there and in England. The politics of Europe would continue to spill over to the Americas, and New Spain and Columbia were no exception. Following the American Rebellion (Later referred to as the Columbian Rebellion), Thousands of British Columbians would migrate into Spanish Louisiana, some settling as far as Texas. This would lead to the British being interested in these lands, and in 1816, conflict would soon erupt. Given the small settler population, British and Native allies' troops would quickly march deep into Louisianian territory, capturing several forts and eventually New Orleans. Eventually, the British would invade Texas hoping to take areas settled by British Columbians. In early 1818 the Spanish agreed to hand over Louisiana and Texas if the British recognized New Spain's borders. With the British agreeing to sign peace, Louisiana and Texas would become a part of the Colonies of Columbia. Issues over slavery were less severe compared to OTL thanks in part to the Cotton Gin development being delayed. With this, the South was less dependent on slavery and adopted industrialization earlier. Slavery in the Columbian colonies would be officially abolished in 1833 alongside the rest of the British Empire. Meanwhile, the people of New Spain have grown restless following the Louisianian War. Although Napoleon never invaded Spain, their control over its American colonies has weakened since the start of the 19th century, and the New Spanish Rebellion of 1824. Though the rebellion was suppressed, it forced Spain to reform its policies in how the colonies were governed, with them achieving greater autonomy and allowing the colonies to act more like how the Dominion ship worked in OTL British Empire. The British would also grant the Columbians their form of dominion in the form of a Commonwealth, and thus on May 5, 1847, the Union of Colonies Act was passed, leading to the formation of the Commonwealth of Columbia. Of course, there were issues over whether the Indigenous States should become members of the Commonwealth and to what degree of autonomy they should get. Ultimately it was decided that they would join the Commonwealth but retain their autonomous rights and still be regarded as citizens of both their nations and of Columbia. In 1883, after years of tension, war broke out between the British and Russians. Russian Alaska would be invaded by Columbian forces and quickly fall. Following the war, Alaska would be fully annexed into the commonwealth. By the late 19th century, New Spain's economic power and population would grow, challenging Spain itself for control over the Empire. Even by 1910, the two Spain’s continued to compete against each other for domination over the empire. New Spain's newfound power would also see the rise of a new independence movement hoping to finally secede from the Spanish Empire. By 1910 Columbia remained the most potent dominion in the British Empire and most Columbians view themselves as an integral part of the empire. Politically the country is primarily divided between the Whig and Tory parties and smaller support for the Libertarians and Labour movements. By 1910 negotiations were being made with the Lakotans and Blackfoots to carve out their autonomous states in the commonwealth, though nothing has occurred yet.
SOUTH AMERICA:
Without the Napoleonic wars, Spanish and Portuguese control over South America continued, albeit with more resistance. Several armed rebellions would occur throughout the early 19th century but would be beaten back by the Spanish and Portuguese. Brazil continues to be Portugal’s ‘jewel in the crown’ and with Portugal’s loss of influence in India, began to focus on it mainly. Even after the rebellions, Spain's control over its colonies remains turbulent at best. With New Spain becoming a dominion of the Spanish Empire, other colonies begin to open up to the possibility of becoming a dominion. Spain was apprehensive at first, Not wanting to give up control over the rest of their empire. However, as time went on and Spain's power decreased, they ultimately allowed the colonies in South America to establish themselves as dominions. On May 20, 1849, the Empire of New Granada, Peru, and Rio de la Plata were officially formed as self-governing Spanish dominions. This proved beneficial to Spain, as without having to focus their might on South America they can focus on themselves. Brazil meanwhile is still treated by the Portuguese as their oversea territory (akin to the Azores). Throughout the latter half of the 19th century, support for the Portuguese monarchy would decline and separatism would grow across the country. By 1910 Brazil is still a Portuguese colony and most of Spanish America are autonomous dominions.
EUROPE:
The death of Washington and New England being spliced off the rest of the country convinced France and Spain to remain neutral in the conflict. Without France's involvement in the war, their economy avoided the crisis it faced OTL and while inequalities still existed, they were not exacerbated. France’s issues continue to worsen, culminating in the Versailles Riot of 1807. Following the riots new reforms were created and France would slowly evolve into a constitutional monarchy similar to the British (Albeit a bit different). Spain and Portugal would continue to decline throughout the early 19th century, with rebellions across their colonies and a failing economy nearly doomed their empire. The Spanish were able to negotiate with their colonies, with them gaining autonomy and allowing Spain to be less burdened by their colonies, while the Portuguese meanwhile were able to retain control over Brazil. While small-scale conflicts, such as the Anglo-Spanish war of 1816, were fought across Europe, by the mid-19th century, years of tension between the French, Austrians and Spanish against the British, Prussians, Russians and Portuguese erupted in 1839, and Europe would once again be embroiled in war. The 5 Year War (Also known as the Great Continental War) would ultimately see the Anglo-Prussian alliance as the victors. The war would see the end of the Holy Roman Empire and the decline of the Austrians and French. It also changed the balance of power with the two major dominant powers of the world now being the British and Spanish. With nationalism being irrelevant in this timeline, ideas of a unified Germany and Italy never came. By 1910, what replaced them were several minor states, with Prussia and Sardinia being the dominant two. In Eastern Europe Poland would never be partitioned and the Polish-Lithuania Commonwealth would continue to survive as a major power into the 20th century. The Ottomans continued to decline throughout the 19th century though not as exacerbated compared to OTL. Thanks to their decline rebellions in Rumelia would pop up throughout the 19th century (Mostly Greek and Serbian), leading to the Ottomans letting some of these regions go as client states. Without the partition of Poland and the Napoleonic Wars, Russia would be forced to focus on Central and East Asia. By 1910 relations between the Russians and Ottomans have quickly degraded to the point where war seems inevitable.


AFRICA:
Ottoman control over the Barbary states continue to decline, which was exacerbated following the Barbariese Wars which saw the end of piracy in the Mediterranean, as well as allowing France to snatch Algeria from the Ottomans. Ottoman control of Egypt would also, however without France invading Egypt in the Napoleonic Wars, a power struggle in Egypt never occurred and thus Muhammad Ali never took control. Egypt would still break away from the Ottomans thanks to their decline. By the 1870s Egypt would come under British influence and in 1882, became a British protectorate. The Egyptians would also agree to hand over the Suez for the construction of the Canal which would be finished in 1894. By 1910, only Libya remain under Ottoman control, and even then it usually faces threats of an invasion Senussi Order. The rest of Africa would largely be ignored by the Europeans excluding its coastlines. However, by the late 19th century, they would gain more interest in colonizing the continent. The colonization of the continent was much slower compared to our timeline due to the Europeans being less interested in Africa and lacking some military technologies that they had in our timeline. Many of the native African kingdoms would take advantage of this by playing off the various Europeans against each other. Some of them would still come under either outright European control or become a protectorate. In South Africa, whiles the Dutch were able to control the Cape colony for much longer, they would ultimately lose it to the French who captured the colony during the Great Continental War, before being captured again by the British. Following the war, the Dutch were forced to hand over the colony to the British in exchange for Indonesia. The British would expand across South Africa although would divide Natal as a separate colony from the cape and would also make an agreement with the Zulus, Swazi and Basotho to make them protectorates. West Africa and the Sahel would be largely left alone with only the coastline being under European control. In East Africa, the British were able to colonize most of the region though some natives such as Buganda and Abysannia continue to secure their independence.
ASIA and OCEANIA:
With the success of the American rebellion, the British weren’t as interested in colonizing Australia compared to our timeline, but they still had a plan to settle there. As the American colonies grew, they go on to be less interested in accepting convicts, forcing the British to look back at Australia. In 1819 the first convicts landed in Botany Bay. Given the British lack of interest out west, the French and Dutch would also colonize and settle in Western and Northern Australia. Just like in their American colonies, the British made agreements with several Aboriginals tribes to set off autonomous land for them to live on, mostly in the West. During the Great Continental War, the French captured the Dutch East Indies and New Holland (The Dutch colonies in Australia) before being captured again by the British. Following the war, the British would hand over the East Indies in exchange for South Africa. The British would sign a treaty with the Maori to establish New Zealand as a British protectorate. In the Middle East, the Ottomans continue to reign control over the region even with their decline. However, as the British began to expand into the region, this brought tension between the two empires and threats of war between the two seemed to be more likely each year. As the Russians expanded into Central Asia and the Caucasus, the British feared that the Russians would use Central Asia as a staging ground to launch an invasion of India. The British and Russians would compete against each other for control over Central Asia, and even by 1910, ‘the Great Game’ is still ongoing. The British East India Company faced numerous issues throughout the 19th century, leading to its bankruptcy in 1841 and forcing London to take full control of India. Despite no longer being under company rule, support for the Independence of India continues to rise amongst the populaces, and due to regressive tax laws, sparked the Indian rebellion of 1872. Although the rebellion was eventually defeated it forced Britain to reform the government structure of India and became more open to the idea of making it a Commonwealth similar to the Columbians and Australia. In 1905, the Empire of India was officially formed out of the British Raj. China still saw its decline internationally, leading European powers to exploit it. Initially, the Qing attempted to prevent the spread of European influence in China and refused to sign any treaties with them. These efforts wouldn’t last for long as the Sino-Franco War erupted in 1847. Due to France spreading their influence into Vietnam, China felt threatened by France leading them to go to war against them. The Sino-Franco ended with a French victory and China handing over Qingdao, though over time China would cede over the rest of the Shandong Peninsula. By 1910 China is still declining and the Qing have become largely unpopular with most Chinese citizens, threatening their rule. The Southeast Asians were much more successful in repealing European influence in the area leading to the Europeans being less interested in colonizing the area. The French were still able to establish a foothold in Indochina and hold a large amount of influence in Vietnam, especially after the Sino-French War. Japan would be opened by the British in 1857 and forced to sign several treaties with them. Due to the unpopularity of these treatises, rebellions would form across Japan. After putting down these rebellions, Japan would see this timeline equivalate to the Meiji Restoration and the country would industrialize. By 1910 Japan is less expansionist compared to our timeline though they do hope to expand their influence into China.
 
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So this is a map I found from Reddit from the user Yangtzy015. Basically it's a scenario where Pakistan and Afghanistan are united under the Afghan monarchy right after the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. In OTL, there were talks for the two countries to be united but they never went anywhere. I like this scenario since for once it doesn't involve Pakistan nor Afghanistan being partitioned. And this definitely looks like a way better scenario than OTL, though far from the most ideal.
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You know it seems off that Khalistanis wouldn't attack India considering there are barely 15-20 sikhs in Pakistan.
 
And I should clarify I wouldn't have bothered answering if the original post didn't ask "what do you all think?"
I mean I asked about aesthetics and you responded about them. No crime there. (I mean I guess if I was being dogpiled it would have been different)
Just use bigger basemaps if you need more pixels.
That's normally what I would do; I wanted to see what it would look like if the subdivision borders were smaller than the international borders/coastlines
 
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