Carter and the Falklands War
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Carter was all about human rights, so there's no way his administration would help a bloodthirsty junta like Argentina's. The war would go as it did IOTL.
the conflict with Britain was in fact Plan B, due to Chile's ginormous border that meant BA had to settle the Beagle Conflict after it almost went "hot"
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Right--but would he be more aggressive in helping Britain, or simply loom over Argentina with a Big Stick?
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I wonder if Argentina would be inclined to think that they could get away with the Falklands invasion without Kirkpatrick around, and a president that cared more about human rights.
The war was a desperate final gamble, so I could see the junta still invading anyway. Plus, Thatcher will still cut defense spending.
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Yes, but the Reagan administration used the Argentinian Military for its proxy wars in Centro America. This brought the Argentinian Army very close to the Pentagon. Galtieri had a lot of personal relations in Washington and this not being is surely going to affect the equation.
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Carter would be very bad for the British. His focus would be trying to end the war, not for the British to win it. I doubt the U.S. would've provided the logistical support it gave Britain. After an initial effort at mediation the U.S. was all in helping Britain. The U.S. shared satellite intel, provided Stinger Missiles, and rushed AIM-9L Sidewinders to the RN Harrier Fleet. Without that help the war would've been a lot harder. 21 of 23 Harrier kills were achieved with the new AIM-9L which was far more lethal than the earlier models than in use.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Charly they were the first to try and wrangle together the (and that meant the advantage of keeping Operation Condor's hangmen several countries away whenever a White House or UN delegation came by)
Argentinean Navy officers also collected ransom money for people they knew had already been murdered back home, ran assassinations from the Embassy in Paris, and even freed Peronists to sabotage Gibraltar (though they were arrested by the Spanish and taken to a bar)
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By the way I am usually accused of being an old Conservative, and to be true so I am. And still I hate the night Reagan defeated Carter (and, not only because of it, I am addicted to @NHBL "The Masquerade Thread II")
(If you think modern times are nasty you should have to remember the Seventies and Eighties)
(If you think modern times are nasty you should have to remember the Seventies and Eighties)
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We may be over stating the relationship of the Regain administration a bit, the Falklands war happened about 14 months after Ragain took office so it is not like they had been working with Argentina for 5-7 years or something.
And I find it pretty funny that folks tging that Carter would do anything significant to help GB. That administration did do much to help its own citizens that were seized out of its own embassy. Do you really think that it will do anything active or that it will be able to intimidate anyone?
And I find it pretty funny that folks tging that Carter would do anything significant to help GB. That administration did do much to help its own citizens that were seized out of its own embassy. Do you really think that it will do anything active or that it will be able to intimidate anyone?
At the end of the day we are still talking about NATO airstrip one in 1982....UK would presumably get given the toys (testing is always usefully anyway for US as well) by the pentagon who ever was in the White House?
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More of that coming...Muses have been good, and I posted on three timelines in 2 days. Thanks