America's Funniest President: Mo Udall Presidency & Beyond

Winter 1988- Soviet Friction
Winter 1988- Soviet Friction

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Flag of Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast
The 1980s were approaching their twilight, but change has not yet finished with the decade. The Soviet Union under Gorbachev would begin rolling out perestroika, a massive program of economic reform and restructuring of the Soviet economy. Despite the initial concerns of the economy gearing toward neoliberalism by some of the hardliners, such concerns were corrected by Gorbachev. Instead, the economic program was a modernization of Lenin's own "New Economic Plan" from decades prior. Like its predecessor, perestroika focused on granting private individuals to own small and medium sized enterprises while the state continued to control large industries, banks and foreign trade. [1] Additionally, other elements were introduced, including socialist self-management, where the managers of these more private enterprises were supervised by workers' councils that each had a vote'; this along with other elements that gave the common worker influence in their work place. The hope was in repeating the success of the NEP as well as establishing "Soviet market socialism". While these reforms did look rather hopeful, the Soviet Union was suffering elsewhere, namely in some of its constinuent states.

The Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast, after years of ethnic tension and strife, would try and secede from the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic to go and join their Armeanian kin over in the Armenian SSR. With tensions running high, the Nagorno-Karabakh War began between the two SSRs. [2] And matters would worsen over with Azerbaijan going with the "Sumgait pogrom", a series of vicious attacks that targeted the Armenian population of the seaside town of Sumgait in the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic in late February 1988. The violence in Sumgait was unexpected and was widely covered in the Western press. This and the war would be met with general astonishment in Armenia and the rest of the Soviet Union since ethnic feuds in the country had been largely suppressed by the government, which had promoted policies such as proletarian internationalism, fraternity of peoples, and socialist patriotism to avert such conflicts. [3] Many saw this as the beginning of greater troubles within the USSR. Namely, of the political turmoil of the constinuent republics, desiring for more autonomy combined with the ethnic tensions and resentment against the ruling party. Some have hoped that Gorbachev could go and lean into political reforms to try and sort this out while the hardliners were becoming increasingly frustrated and concerned about their potential loss of power.

Other large political changes loomed across the world outside the great Soviet. Vice-President Lee Teng-hui would take over as President of the Republic of China and Chairman of the Kuomintang following the death of Chiang Ching-kuo. The constitution of the Sixth Republic of Korea comes into effect and bringing the hope of stability over in South Korea while North Korea was undergoing struggles. And the Nazi connections of Austria's president Kurt Waldheim would be become practically confirmed with a Nazi document implicating him in World War II deportations. [4] This would lead to increasing friction as Waldheim would become a persona non grata to a growing number of nations in the world. All while war continued in Afghanistan, Pakistan and India, the war having gone for over a year and going into two, wth Afghanistan and India further pushing into Pakistan and the notation of their demands. Many wonder what would break first here... All around the world, political news was buzzing and many were wondering were the next one would come...

It turns out... from none other than the United States primaries...

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[1]- Information and phrasing from here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy
[2]- Information and phrasing from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh_Autonomous_Oblast
[3]- Information and phrasing from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumgait_pogrom
[4]- Informstion and phrasing from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988
 
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@Mynock Who do you think would take over from the Tories since Thatcherism never really happened? And on the LibDems?

Hope you’re liking the timeline so far!
 
Oh did the Fairness Doctrine law/amendment thingy stay in this timeline? After it's repeal in 1987 in our timeline conservative talk show radio shows boosted in popularity and most likely led to the rise of Fox News in the 1990s as the biggest news outlet in the country.
 
Oh did the Fairness Doctrine law/amendment thingy stay in this timeline? After it's repeal in 1987 in our timeline conservative talk show radio shows boosted in popularity and most likely led to the rise of Fox News in the 1990s as the biggest news outlet in the country.
Nope. Fairness Doctrine did not get repealed.

Also, Fox News didn’t come into existence until 1996, meaning its rise was more associated in the early 2000s.

I don’t know if it would come into existence regardless; namely because 20th Century Fox was bought by Metromedia here (rather than Metromedia being bought by NewsCorp) and became MetroFox Media.
 
Nope. Fairness Doctrine did not get repealed.

Also, Fox News didn’t come into existence until 1996, meaning its rise was more associated in the early 2000s.

I don’t know if it would come into existence regardless; namely because 20th Century Fox was bought by Metromedia here (rather than Metromedia being bought by NewsCorp) and became MetroFox Media.
Oh interesting. I accidentally asked that question on the wrong thread before in the before 1900 section lol
 
I don’t know if it would come into existence regardless; namely because 20th Century Fox was bought by Metromedia here (rather than Metromedia being bought by NewsCorp) and became MetroFox Media.
At least nothing happens to Fox Kids ITTL. Except maybe being named Metro Kids instead. Or DuMont Kids if they want to be really bold and give that brand another try.
 
Oh interesting. I accidentally asked that question on the wrong thread before in the before 1900 section lol
Yup! Was surprised to hear Fox News was younger than expected.

I don’t know if Metromedia or rather MetroFox would be that interested in making news, but they could…
 
At least nothing happens to Fox Kids ITTL. Except maybe being named Metro Kids instead. Or DuMont Kids if they want to be really bold and give that brand another try.
Yup! It will probably be called something like that. I initially considered AniMetro, but I figured they’d have more than just cartoons.

though figuring out Time-Warner and Turner is a bit tricky because of the new rules… Both got a lot out of the deal though there’s probably some way to get that without merging
 
Yup! It will probably be called something like that. I initially considered AniMetro, but I figured they’d have more than just cartoons.

though figuring out Time-Warner and Turner is a bit tricky because of the new rules… Both got a lot out of the deal though there’s probably some way to get that without merging
The Answer is that Warner Keeps its hold on Nickelodeon while Turner goes on to create Cartoon Network without them with their Hannah Barbera library and future originals. Meanwhile, MTV creates its own Kids Channel with Cartoons, sitcoms and music and such, as a replacement for OTL's Nick.

Sounds like pretty good ideas, will look into them thank you!
Crrie is the most likely since Bottomley hasn't been in government long enough.
 
The Answer is that Warner Keeps its hold on Nickelodeon while Turner goes on to create Cartoon Network without them with their Hannah Barbera library and future originals. Meanwhile, MTV creates its own Kids Channel with Cartoons, sitcoms and music and such, as a replacement for OTL's Nick.


Crrie is the most likely since Bottomley hasn't been in government long enough.
Nick was already connected to MTV beforehand and by this point, already likely sold to Viacom. Do have some plans for Nick down the line.

Currie might get screwed for her past comments and the egg thing, even though she would later be proven right about that apparently
 
Currie might get screwed for her past comments and the egg thing, even though she would later be proven right about that apparently
Without Thatcher and the decreases in regulations, can there even be an Egg Thing? Under Labour, the regulations would surely stand.
 
Without Thatcher and the decreases in regulations, can there even be an Egg Thing? Under Labour, the regulations would surely stand.
Hmmm... that is a good point there. Thanks for bringing attention to that though some of her other comments may get her in a bit of trouble. Guess it depends in popularity,
 
1988- Internal Fracture
1988- Internal Fracture

The 1988 United States election would become a historical moment for the nation, mainly for what would be set down the line. However, it would be less over on the general election and more on the primaries. The Democrat primaries were relatively calm and quiet, with Vice President Reubin Askew being the favorite to win for nomination though it also served to guage the field of the party as a whole. The more conservative faction had remained pretty brow-beaten and quiet within the party while others, like the neoliberal minority, have been finding not much success. More and more progressive candidates or at lease moderates willing to moreso alongside progressive policies have been making their mark over on the Democrat party and it would seem that would be the trend for the next few years as well. The question also lingered on who Reubin Askew would bring in as his running mate.

Unlike the peace of the Democrat primaries, the Republican primaries were a hectic mess. From the unsuccessful of vindicating Reagan done by Jack Kemp to the lack of focus on domestic policies from George HW Bush, it would seem that there was not much to pick in though. Bob Dole stood out along with John B. Anderson. While they were the big names over, they were much more than that. They seem to represent the divisions between the Liberal Republicans led by John B. Anderson alongside folk like John Chafee, Jim Saxton and Charles Mathias and the more conservative factions, such as the former neoconservatives that once followed Reagan and the more moderate folk who followed Ford and Nixon. At first glance, it was a war for the soul of the Republican Party though more accurately, it was over whether the Republicans could stabily contain the growing changes and conflicts along with what they stood for.

Much has happened since Udall was first voted in back in 1980. Third wave feminism was in full swing; beyond their success over with the Amendment and further securing the protection and rights of abortion, they were also engaging against the toxic practices of machismo, sexual harassment and other ugly biases toward women along with promoting the freedom and rights of all women, including transwomen and others who are feminine. The SATMIN civil rights wave found similar success as with greater protections, they moved on to educate the masses and reach out, showing to their heterosexual cis-kin that they were just as American as they were, normalizing the complex truth of how life was and walk in arms toward a brighter future. Both of these were led and followed by promonent people of color, showing their rising influence and the hopes for their own further search for equality. For certain conservative folk and others, it was all quite overwhelming at times. Of course, for certain politicians, they saw this as opportunity. In desperation, some of the older political advisors and planners turned to an old tactic in the hopes of using it once more: The Southern Strategy. An infamous political strategy used by the Republican Party to garner support for the party in the Deep South, it relied on exploiting racial tensions and has been refined to focus more on nebulous terms like "state rights" and other vague concepts that carried certain connotations, such as Reagan's attacks on "welfare queens". With all of these vast changes, they saw it as an opportunity to try and stoke up those very same flames once more.

Not everyone was on board here though because it was the primaries, it would seem to be secondary to what some of the party heads were deeming it along with what would go with the voters were seemingly wanting and so on. However, that did not stop some of the tactics from appearing. However, things were different. The Southern Strategy was not as appealing to the Liberal Republicans, especially to the Log Cabin Republicans and Republicns of color. But quite notably, not to James B. Anderson. To where he went over to try and stop the implementation of the stategy to various Republican Party leaders, not just within the general election, but in all of them, viewing it as a detriment to the image of the party. Despite his efforts, he would be relatively unsuccessful, especially as some would try and use it to clamp down on what they already have and what could be grown. This would especially be the case for some of the evangelicalists of the time, trying to capitalize on that same reactionary opportunity.

It was the final straw.

Over in the early months of 1988, John B. Anderson announced his resignation; he was dropping out of the primary for the Republican candidancy... and retiring out of the party all together. But rather than quit the race, he would make a statement.

John Bayard Anderson would run as an independent candidate for the president.

When asked why, he said he did not fit in much with the Republican Party and could no longer support some of the strategies and tactics they were now using, especially those that relied on stoking resentment and anger toward fellow Americans rather than on any meaningful policy, all for the purposes of getting votes. The allusion to the return of the Southern Strategy was enough to get people's attention and it would soon come to return to the people's mainstream thought. Anderson's final duties was addressing the Liberal Republicans, encouraging them to keep fighting and changing. Mathias had planned to retire in 1987, but was convinced by Anderson to try and stay for one more term, in the event Anderson could not stay. Seeing the success they were having with growing the Liberal Republican wing, Mathias stayed. He suspected Anderson may try and leave and thus he would take the reigns.

Both parties were shocked, albeit over diffeent reasons. The GOP saw it as a big blow to their confidence, especially when Anderson would give his reasons as to why, causing the fractures to grow much larger in the party and their reputation now tainted once more. The Democrats saw it as an advantage yet wondered how well Anderson would do as an independent. Some leaned more toward him than Askew while some of the fresh blood were wanting to see if they could change the status quo. Of course, they remained unified and the comments on the Southern Strategy was fresh fodder for them to use, especially making comparisons to Nixon and Reagan and how things have been back in the 1970s and the time of the Dismal Dozen. Younger voters were turned off over at the GOP and the conservatives found themselves at a loss for the GOP, with some hoping to try and find another way to follow their political beliefs without the baggage, one that was growing increasingly more difficult.

All the Americans knew was that the election would be more noteworthy than they first intended...


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@dcharleos and @Geekhis Khan, this especially goes out for you because of our convo we had back in August!

And yup... old habits die hard... and when you can't quit bad habits soon enough, they start leaving permanant damage.
 
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