@TheMann what became of the Monon in the Amigoes universe? I remember some proposals you floated in the past included the Erie Lackawanna and Canadian National. Whereas one option I considered for the Dankverse is the Southern Railway.
Never really decided that one. We didn't expressly lay out everything that happened, of course.@TheMann what became of the Monon in the Amigoes universe? I remember some proposals you floated in the past included the Erie Lackawanna and Canadian National. Whereas one option I considered for the Dankverse is the Southern Railway.
Personally, I prefer the idea of the Southern getting the line because it'd give it a direct link to Chicago, which it lacked to the very end in OTL. With the Erie Lackawanna as my runner-up choice.Any of those (CN, EL or SOU) would be good choices because for all of them it would fill in a hole in the network or act as a logical expansion. Any of those, however, mean a lot of trackwork as the Monon route was fairly lightly built and will need better track and some route adjustments to be a modern operation.
I mean I've kind of thrown realism to the wind with my Maine/Quebec/New Brunswick narrow gauge but I will still throw my two cents in. That seems like a somewhat reasonable way of getting more 2ft to survive beyond the 1930s. I still think a number of regional logging lines could still run well into the 1950s which might explain the survival of some more unusual locomotives.@TheMann If the Maine 2ft gauge at large can't live past the 1930s, how do these ideas sound?
- The lines are built earlier, around the 1850s, and unite to create a network from Wiscasset to both Greenville and the Rangley Lakes region by 1870.
- The Greenville - Wiscasset line becomes a line for interchange, and in the early days the railroad uses transfer cars not unlike those of the OTL's Padarn Railway in Wales.
- By 1900 however, the Canadian Pacific buys up the line and converts the Greenville - Wiscasset line to Standard Gauge as well as the leg to Farmington. However, the Farmington - Rangley Lakes section of the railway remains 2ft and powered by a robust fleet 2-6-2s as well as Forneys and railbuses.
- Although the 2ft gauge is abandoned by 1936, preservationists save up a good deal of it, and run several of the 2-6-2s on it. Like OTL the Forney tank engines go the Edaville Railway in Massachussets.
OOC: The idea to play around with Maine narrow gauge ideas was inspired by @NHBL so shout-out to him.
I went with a Garratt in my own universe specifically because the Rathole's lines are too light for more conventional locomotives. That, and Garratts are bidirectional which is advantageous to infrastructure spending.On an unrelated note, what are peoples thoughts on Cab Forwards on the SOU's Rathole division (possibly a 4-6-6-2 or bigger). I have been thinking of some steam designs for the Rathole and don't particularly want a garratt which was my first instinct.
I was admittedly thinking most of my TL's Wiscasset & Rangely locomotives would be 2-6-2s and 2-8-2s until the very end.I mean I've kind of thrown realism to the wind with my Maine/Quebec/New Brunswick narrow gauge but I will still throw my two cents in. That seems like a somewhat reasonable way of getting more 2ft to survive beyond the 1930s. I still think a number of regional logging lines could still run well into the 1950s which might explain the survival of some more unusual locomotives.
Could they have built a double ended Fairlie? Although carrying enough fuel could be a problem.On an unrelated note, what are peoples thoughts on Cab Forwards on the SOU's Rathole division (possibly a 4-6-6-2 or bigger). I have been thinking of some steam designs for the Rathole and don't particularly want a garratt which was my first instinct.
Fairlies were already tried on American railroads... it didn't go well.Could they have built a double ended Fairlie? Although carrying enough fuel could be a problem.
I'm going to have to break this easily to some of my Garratt-o-phobic American co-conspiratorsReally, only Garratts are truly viable for the Southern rathole.
Yup. Better to just rip that band-aid off.I'm going to have to break this easily to some of my Garratt-o-phobic American co-conspirators
Well on some thought I'm trying to work out if something like say a Union Garratt or large Kitson Meyer like this example below. Its either that or probably a Double Mountain Garratt.Yup. Better to just rip that band-aid off.
Personally I went for a Garratt based on the South African GEA type in my AU.Well on some thought I'm trying to work out if something like say a Union Garratt or large Kitson Meyer like this example below. Its either that or probably a Double Mountain Garratt.
I might go for something like this but what are peoples thoughts on that?
You're better off just sticking to a conventional garratt.I might go for something like this but what are peoples thoughts on that?
Personally thinking along the lines of a RENFE Garratt type thing now or possibly something like the AD60 but blown up and with a trailing axel deleted. There is also the Sharratt (a Shay-Garratt proposal) which might be funny as hell for another use.You're better off just sticking to a conventional garratt.